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Are we the baddies?

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Re: Are we the baddies?

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Post by alganet »

afiodorov wrote: post #53
alganet wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> disengagement. That disengagement metric is valuable, I'm not gonna give it away for free anymore. I'll engage and disengage randomly, so no one knows what works. > The boom in digital detoxes, the dumbphone revival among young people That's a market now. It doesn't mean shit. It's a "lifestyle". > People are feeling the manipulation They don't. Even manipulation awareness is a market now. I'm sure there are YouTub…

There's nothing an algorithm can do against disciplined, intentional engagement. If you know which car you want to buy it doesn't matter what the salesman has to say.

I wonder if there are other kinds of profiling algorithms not related to sales.

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Post by jen20 »

alecco wrote: post #253
protocolture wrote: post #46

>But eventually the market will fix this, right? People will feel sick of being manipulated and move elsewhere? You can literally go outside and talk to people. There's no moat around dating apps. Human beings continue to exist in meatspace. I am yet to see a dating app contract that prevents you from being casually approached by strangers. Heck matchmakers still exist.

> You can literally go outside and talk to people. Only in small towns with high trust societies, sadly.

Wildly untrue, unless you count London or New York City as small towns.

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Post by carlosjobim »

cedws wrote: post #294
squidbeak wrote: post #142

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Do you really need to be a singleton just because you reject dating apps?

Are you asking me specifically or in general? I'm in my 20s and the way a significant portion of relationships start in this generation is via dating apps. If you aren't using dating apps, and don't have social circles, there's just no social fabric to build from. Believe me, I've tried activities, they don't really work. It's extremely difficult to build enough rapport with someone in the space of 1-2 hours that the…

If you're in your 20s you should change your life so that you live a lifestyle with easy social connections and ways to find partners. Being alone too much in your age will give you permanent mental damage.

So change careers, change city, change country, change whatever is needed so that you can have a decent life.

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Post by cedws »

carlosjobim wrote: post #304
cedws wrote: post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you asking me specifically or in general? I'm in my 20s and the way a significant portion of relationships start in this generation is via dating apps. If you aren't using dating apps, and don't have social circles, there's just no social fabric to build from. Believe me, I've tried activities, they don't really work. It's extremely difficult to build enough rapport with someone in the space of 1-2 hours that the…

If you're in your 20s you should change your life so that you live a lifestyle with easy social connections and ways to find partners. Being alone too much in your age will give you permanent mental damage. So change careers, change city, change country, change whatever is needed so that you can have a decent life.

What do you mean by the permanent damage part?

I actually go out a lot, and moved across the world to Tokyo four months ago. The problem is not meeting people. I can make surface level connections every day of the week. The problem is finding people who want to stick around.

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Post by fc417fc802 »

makeitdouble wrote: post #269
afiodorov wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's nothing an algorithm can do against disciplined, intentional engagement. If you know which car you want to buy it doesn't matter what the salesman has to say.

The salesman can cut the car you want from your buying options, or stick conditions on it that will make up for the difference with the other models. That's what we're seeing with Youtube for instance: your choice is to pay Youtube's price for Premium (litteraly paying to not get bullied), sit through all the ads in the world, or get three strikes after playing the ad-blocking cat and mouse game for long enough. Of c…

> get three strikes after playing the ad-blocking cat and mouse game for long enough

I've never encountered this. What is it?

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Post by j2kun »

LeafItAlone wrote: post #217

I generally avoid George’s non-technical posts because they are… let’s say uninspired. But here is one that actually makes sense. Of course the self-reflection with who he otherwise praises and spends his time with will never set in, but at least others may take the time to look inward and do something differently. Something has to change. Even HN seems to have had an increase in sentiment like this in the past few y…

I have to wonder if some people are just trying to follow the hype. This reads like the "put a cell phone camera on your dashboard to make a car self-driving" approach to reflection.

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Post by dangus »

The author is metaphorically complaining about seeing alcohol for sale after deciding to go to a bar.

Nobody twisted your arm to use Hinge rather than utilize local dating resources like singles meetups, speed dating, and matchmaking services.

Or just get a group-oriented hobby and talk to people in real life.

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

pards wrote: post #245
FridgeSeal wrote: post #169

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Less so the early boarding, but the priority baggage is nice, especially after long international flights. Getting on the flight 15 minutes early also beats dawdling in a slow moving like for 20. Lounge access is worth it alone! Especially on international connections!!

> Lounge access is worth it alone Airport food & coffee is expensive and often not very good. At least with lounge access, I get that subpar food & coffee for free plus somewhere to sit. With a family, that can save a significant chunk of money off the cost of a holiday.

> With a family, that can save a significant chunk of money off the cost of a holiday.

How long are y'all sitting around in lounges?

If a small meal / snack saves a significant chunk of money off the cost of a holiday then one of us is not doing it right.

Flights and accommodation are the lions share of costs as far as my limited experience goes.

(P.S. I was meant to be leaving for Japan this morning, but family medical emergency has ruled it out. Flights were $5,500. I'd hope that airport food costs wouldn't raise a blip on a radar set to that scale).

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Post by LeafItAlone »

alecco wrote: post #248
LeafItAlone wrote: post #217

I generally avoid George’s non-technical posts because they are… let’s say uninspired. But here is one that actually makes sense. Of course the self-reflection with who he otherwise praises and spends his time with will never set in, but at least others may take the time to look inward and do something differently. Something has to change. Even HN seems to have had an increase in sentiment like this in the past few y…

Hmmm. I'll just leave this here https://x.com/ns123abc/status/1940980667455836578

I don’t use Twitter. I believe it plays a big part in the degradation of society that geohot hot refers to in this article.

Can you share that that post is about and the significance of it in relation to this link?

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