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Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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post #299

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I imagine they're thinking of the Bundy standoff (which was federal BLM land but not a national park) To wit: > The Bundy standoff’s most significant legacy may be the precedent it established: that armed resistance against federal authorities could succeed without serious legal consequences for participants. This outcome has had a profound impact on antigovernment extremist movements, creating what experts describe…

The Obama administration's decision to do nothing in that case is one of several extremely risk averse decisions that seemed questionable at the time and turned out to be quite bad in hindsight. Shrugging off Russia's invasion of Ukraine being another. It shouldn't have been a surprise that letting armed militias break federal law with little to no consequence would encourage further bad behavior.

Lol the Obama administration did not 'do nothing.'

They offered a plea agreement to the Hammonds (cause d'etre of the whole thing), who were then sentenced for a wildland fire under dubious circumstances.

After the sentencing it was a done deal, it was over. Then Obama's DOJ had to stoke the flames and reneg on it -- IIRC after the sentenced had already been served!

It shouldn't have been a surprise what unfolded after the government reneging, in a way that was so egregious that they (the people that were the cause d'etre for the Malheur occupation) were pardoned with the following remarks during the pardon:

"The evidence at trial regarding the Hammonds’ responsibility for the fire was conflicting, and the jury acquitted them on most (sic) of the charges." According to his spokesperson Sarah Sanders, who read the statement, "The previous administration, however, filed an overzealous appeal that resulted in the Hammonds being sentenced to five years in prison"

So you can see the Malheur occupation was a response to a federal government who engaged in such tyrannical behavior as inducing a plea bargain that gave up right to appeal, then themselves hypocritically appealing the sentence and changing it after the fact to one that was found to violate the 8th amendment by Judge Michael Hogan. The Malheur occupation was a response to this, if Obama had 'done nothing' in the case of the Hammonds or just respected the judge's sentence none of it would have happened. In my estimation Bundy et al was the only thing that brought the Hammonds the visibility to get the justice of a pardon under these circumstances and a restoration of their 8th amendment rights.

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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post #203

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Delivery drones are larger and therefore quieter (larger propellor = more pleasant tone and lower RPM) and fly higher than the consumer drones you’re probably familiar with.

The assertion that larger drones are quieter than small ones is amusing. "As you can hear for yourself, this Apache helicopter is nearly unnoticeable next to this handheld drone."

Sounds is a funny thing. My physics professor once had us calculate the energy in the sound of an entire stadium and it wasn't enough to heat a cup of coffee. Sound just doesn't have that much energy. For a few hundred watts you can make an entire neighborhood miserable as any car audio enthusiast can demonstrate.

I routinely have Apache helicopters fly over my house and I prefer them to most of the tiny drones. The helicopters typically have lower frequencies and fly way higher. They also don't have that insect flying by your head buzz that makes my ears hurt.

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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Has a very easy answer in the US: No. You do not own your airspace. The FAA owns your airspace. You can build a tall structure (subject to local laws). But anything above that is outside your control. --- This article, however, is about Ireland.

Not quite. The height of a structure, antenna, tower, etc., can be limited by the FAA based upon the distance of the structure from a nearby airport. Beyond a certain distance, the height is no longer an FAA issue.

The FAA has no direct authority over structures.

It will evaluate such structures for their effect on air traffic, and local authorities will almost universally follow their findings when approving construction.

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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According to the company's own video, there's a lot of attack surface outside of the blades. And birds incidents with actual planes show that it's not the same reasoning as human warfare : inflicting damage to the enemy while taking none. For delivery companies it won't matter if the birds got out safely or died in the process of destroying their $$$$ drones. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uW5LbZMx6Wo

I would argue it would be worse for the company if the birds died because once that gets all over the Internet I have a feeling that demand for any service that kills birds would drop significantly.

Counterpoint: lots of people are still actively advocating for more coal power plants

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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I would argue it would be worse for the company if the birds died because once that gets all over the Internet I have a feeling that demand for any service that kills birds would drop significantly.

Counterpoint: lots of people are still actively advocating for more coal power plants

And more wind turbines which actually do frequently kill birds.

Solar + Nuclear plz

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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post #260

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The NYPD drones buzz my neighborhood repeatedly during the summer months, and they are relatively small drones. Incredibly loud and distracting. I'm not looking forward to deliveries via heavier, louder drones.

That is rather dystopian. I'm surprised the locals let it fly (no pun intended).

Fucking with a Cop's toys is a reliably way to suddenly have a lot of trouble with the cops. It doesn't matter what the law says either, because unless you can find a prior case that specifically covers that law, a cop is not required to respect the law.

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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How is drone delivery economically feasible? The carry weight is negligible, the range is paltry and they still require operators- whom I'm sure earn more than your average white van man.

A Wing delivery drones can lift 5 lbs and travel upwards of 12 miles at up to 70 mph. If a single operator can pilot 20 drones simultaneously, delivering say 50+ packages/hour, then it starts to make sense.

How the hell can a single operator pilot 20 at the same time. These aren't uavs, let alone uavs with the ability to navigate congested airspace!

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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My question is...why would you want to?

Throughout the comments, it sounds like people are expecting these drones to only be ~50 feet above the ground, buzzing right over houses, or being a noisy nuisance hovering in place endlessly.

Maybe it's because I live in an area with lots of tall trees, but I'd expect these drones to be flying at least 200 feet up. At that height, it becomes difficult to hear the drone unless you're in an incredibly quiet rural area.

And it's not like a drone is going to hang around. It'll deliver its package and then head back to base to charge and/or pick up another package.

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I imagine they're thinking of the Bundy standoff (which was federal BLM land but not a national park) To wit: > The Bundy standoff’s most significant legacy may be the precedent it established: that armed resistance against federal authorities could succeed without serious legal consequences for participants. This outcome has had a profound impact on antigovernment extremist movements, creating what experts describe…

The Obama administration's decision to do nothing in that case is one of several extremely risk averse decisions that seemed questionable at the time and turned out to be quite bad in hindsight. Shrugging off Russia's invasion of Ukraine being another. It shouldn't have been a surprise that letting armed militias break federal law with little to no consequence would encourage further bad behavior.

I always thought that hesitation was an over-correction after Ruby Ridge and Waco.

Re: Can I stop drone delivery companies flying over my property?

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For what it's worth, shooting at aircraft (including drones) is a federal offense, and the FAA takes that one pretty seriously. Drones also have cameras.

They likely know their neighborhood. In my semi-rural neighborhood even discharging a firearm might lead to someone calling the Sheriff. In other neighborhoods armed gangs can apparently confront FEMA without any repercussions. In yet others, they can occupy parts of national parks and have an armed standoff with federal agents, again with no real consequences.

>can occupy parts of national parks and have an armed standoff with federal agents, again with no real consequences.

... until you realize ~ a dozen of the Malheur were informants, and the 'boat ramp' live fire exercises they touted were orchestrated by a self described "psyops" 20 year swiss military veteran (Fabio Minoggio) on the payroll of the FBI who took on a "supervisory" role. Then the FBI refused to identify the informants during trial, so we don't even know which of the 'armed standoff' members were actual just the government fighting themselves and instigating others along with it.

The more you look into the case the more you find out why the jury acquitted ammon. It looks as if the jury decided the government had a standoff with itself.

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