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No, even a standard 30-33cm pizza is barely enough for 1 person depending on hungry state.
Perhaps Costco pizzas - 18 inches, or about 45 cm!
Cinematography of “Andor”
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Re: Cinematography of “Andor”
#302If you haven't watched Andor and you are at all open to sci-fi then I would urge you to consider giving a go. The writing, acting, and cinematography are all excellent, and IMO it is a very strong contender for the best TV show released in the last few years.
It’s not sci-fi though. If Star Wars is sci-fi then Jurassic Park is a biology documentary.
...or Westworld (1973) a western
Re: Cinematography of “Andor”
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A big part of the difference is the timelines and scale. When you ship a piece of software, it's often expected to be usable by a million people reliably for years. In film and video production, you're duct taping shit together to get it to stay in one piece just long enough to get the shot and get the film out the door. You're fixing shit in post because you were in a hurry on set. It's a sort of barely controlled c…
> When you ship a piece of software, it's often expected to be usable by a million people reliably for years. Is this really true anymore? I feel like people release software now expecting to continue to patch it repeatedly, so there isn't a push to get it perfect the first time.
Even so folks are still maintaining it. Once a film is done, it’s done and no one looks back.
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>5 seasons Thank god. There's not enough meat on the bone, the writing would never have been good enough to support this. We need more excellent, tightly spun stories.
Really? I was a bit annoyed about the multiple „1 year later“ jumps. There‘s plenty that happened in that time that we haven’t seen.
It built tension by itself. Time skips reinforce the idea that things are _moving fast_.
If we didn't have them, it would turn it into a drag. A dramatic year looks much more impressive when you compare it to what was a year before, than when you look at it day by day.
Re: Cinematography of “Andor”
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"You guys are excluding the George Lucas movies from discussion right?" We are not. Andor is the best Star Wars ever made, full stop. IMHO, it surpasses, by far, anything Lucas ever did.
It’s a different beast. For me, there’s too many things in Andor that don’t fit conceptually, logically or tonally with the original trilogy. So if you like the world building the OT did and/or hinted at, Andor might not come through on that. Of course, the prequel trilogy (again quite a different beast) had similar issues.
The prequels are trying to do what Andor does well, including a more political focus. But Andor just blows it out of the Naboo water.
Re: Cinematography of “Andor”
#306Earlier quoted context omitted.
> When you ship a piece of software, it's often expected to be usable by a million people reliably for years. Is this really true anymore? I feel like people release software now expecting to continue to patch it repeatedly, so there isn't a push to get it perfect the first time.
Even so folks are still maintaining it. Once a film is done, it’s done and no one looks back.
Except George ;)
Re: Cinematography of “Andor”
#307To address this interview specifically, rather than just gushing about how great Andor is-- One point Nuyens makes in a few different ways is that they used a variety of tools and techniques at every stage. People often have simplistic, extreme viewpoints like "modern CGI can do anything" or "CGI looks fake and weightless, practical effects are better". But here's somebody with a big part in making a fantastic-lookin…
> Massive real sets with CGI enhancements; sometimes green screens This is the definition of the Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy, and they're still some of the best-looking films I've ever seen, far surpassing the modern UE slop.
The Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy is well-known for being peak CGI Artist overtime and burnout. Don't have the source handy right now, but At World's End in particular was allegedly an absolute meat grinder for the CG folks for years.
That said, I do agree, they made something truly incredible that has stood the test of time. And I wish we could have more of it (but I'll also take better working conditions every day until we figure out how to have both.)
Re: Cinematography of “Andor”
#308The cinematography, editing, writing, and overall feel of this show far exceed any Star Wars movie I've seen. I had long since written off the Star Wars franchise as a shameless cash grab since the original movies but they proved they could do something cool with it. I'd definitely watch a new movie if it were handled by the same team that made Andor. Prequel, sequel, side story, or re-telling of the originals.
The prison episode is a masterpiece and would have been an amazing movie on its own. It‘s weird how zany the other SW shows and even movies look now in comparison. I‘m really sad there can’t be another season.
Be sure to watch for after the credits of the last episode of season 1!!
Re: Cinematography of “Andor”
#309Earlier quoted context omitted.
A big part of the difference is the timelines and scale. When you ship a piece of software, it's often expected to be usable by a million people reliably for years. In film and video production, you're duct taping shit together to get it to stay in one piece just long enough to get the shot and get the film out the door. You're fixing shit in post because you were in a hurry on set. It's a sort of barely controlled c…
> When you ship a piece of software, it's often expected to be usable by a million people reliably for years. Is this really true anymore? I feel like people release software now expecting to continue to patch it repeatedly, so there isn't a push to get it perfect the first time.
You are right. It certainly depends on the industry and rigor involved. Safety and mission critical certainly needs to last years whereas people have become accustomed to accepting updates in other cases
Re: Cinematography of “Andor”
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"The Force" never sat well with me. It was the one weird supernatural thing in the Star Wars universe that pushed the whole franchise into "magic" territory. The less Force, the better in my opinion. Save super-powers for comic-book movies.
Star Wars was never science fiction. It has always been treated as fantasy with space ships by its creators. The nature of its setting is really much closer to Harry Potter than e.g. the Expanse.
I don't know, plenty of "science fiction" has telepaths and psionics, especially from the 1970s and 80s. Star Trek had it since the original series.
If your standard for what science fiction is us The Expanse then almost all of what's considered science fiction is fantasy.