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Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by crossroadsguy » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 8:08 AM UTC

Theofrastus wrote: post #288

bhaney wrote: post #57

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> I wish there was an easy way for this - plug and play kinda I can click a button in Lidarr to auth with Spotify and automatically search usenet for every album of every artist I follow on spotify, download them all, and make them available in Jellyfin. It'll even monitor the spotify account and import new additions. Getting the whole stack set up is pretty much the exact opposite of plug and play, but once you have…

The one thing that bothers me about Lidarr is that it is album based, not song based. Before streaming services, I managed my local music library with albums as well, but my habits have changed. I basically only listen to my "Liked Songs" playlist on Spotify, and really only have a select few albums that I listen to on the whole. I tried syncing Lidarr with my Spotify account, but 95% of the downloads then where song…

I don’t think there are more than 4-5 albums in my Spotify library where I like more than one songs of it. Or even artists (though there might be more music from single artists). I also just listen by playlists and often just my “Liked” or “all songs”.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by jonesjohnson » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 8:19 AM UTC

lolive wrote: post #178

armSixtyFour wrote: post #149

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I would have agreed with you 3 years ago. But now not so much. Spotify "Radio" feature just tends to want to give me music I've already listened to over new music. Whatever algorithm they are using has waaaay overfit to what I have already liked. There used to be curated playlists done by humans, now almost everything is "made for you by Spotify" playlists which, have the exact same issue as the radio stations, sudde…

Spotify « radio » is the best reason to listen to real radios ! [honestly the DJs on most of the radios I listen to are insanely skilled !] Btw, is there somewhere a search engine to know when a given [set of] track was played where, in the internet radio world?

reminds me that i should donate to somafm again :-)

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by prmoustache » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 8:19 AM UTC

Author mention the struggle of making playlist, I just use the filesystem feature and put them in individual folders. Every single audio player can put all songs in a folder in the play queue. Hardlibks can be used to save space for songs I have on individual albums. I still like listening to complete albums.

The music from my computer is synchronized to my smartphone with syncthing.

No server needed.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by nullify88 » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 8:22 AM UTC

nperrier wrote: post #138

hyperbovine wrote: post #44

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For $15 a month I get access to (as far as my tastes are concerned) all the music ever recorded, instantly accessible from anywhere in the world on any device I own. I recall a commercial from the 90s that sort of poked fun at this exact idea, as being laughably farfetched and "sci-fi". You're damn right I'm happy.

Fan of Mazzy Star's music? Try playing one of their hit songs. Oh you can't because their music is not on the platform.

It is in Europe. I am a fan of Mazzy Star and play their music in Denmark or the UK.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by mvanbaak » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 8:27 AM UTC

soraminazuki wrote: post #282

dankwizard wrote: post #95

This article fails to mention the absolute butchering of features that takes place moving from a typical music streaming subscription to a self hosted Jellyfin library. A large part of my listening on YouTube Music is going to a particular song or band I like and clicking "Radio", which generates a playlist of similar sounding songs. You can then fine tune it with a filter i.e "Popular songs, deep cuts" or specific e…

By moving away from streaming services, you can once again own what you bought and paid for. Algorithmic playlists are nothing, nothing at all compared to the loss of ability to use your own player, edit your files, back them up, or not be nickel-and-dimed to get around artificial restrictions. Not to mention that with streaming services, music can be taken away from you after the purchase.

One can have both: use the streaming services to discover new music, buy physical media of the bands you like most. Not everyone has this option, but it is an alternative.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by sussmannbaka » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 8:36 AM UTC

mystifyingpoi wrote: post #283

sussmannbaka wrote: post #231

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If you feel bad, buy a single song of each artist afterwards and you have given them vastly more money than listening to them on Spotify will ever generate.

You can give them even more by skipping the silly part of buying a song you'll never listen to on the platform which takes majority of that money, and just transfer them $1 by paypal or whatever they like to use.

yeah I’ll skip that part and then spend the next 2 hours to find the payment details of my favorite band, sure

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by bladeee » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 8:38 AM UTC

tastysandwich wrote: post #141

For music, Navidrome is superior. It is just crazy how easy it is to set this stuff up nowadays. I run both Navidrome and Jellyfin in docker containers. Then I use NordVPN Meshnet to securely connect to them outside of the home. The experience is absolutely flawless. In Navidrome you can host an entire FLAC library and then transcode to Opus on the fly. It's been over a year now and I have pretty much no issues whats…

I understand that Navidrome is more specialized for music, but what specifically makes it superior to Jellyfin, in your opinion?

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by hyperbovine » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 8:44 AM UTC

nperrier wrote: post #138

hyperbovine wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For $15 a month I get access to (as far as my tastes are concerned) all the music ever recorded, instantly accessible from anywhere in the world on any device I own. I recall a commercial from the 90s that sort of poked fun at this exact idea, as being laughably farfetched and "sci-fi". You're damn right I'm happy.

Fan of Mazzy Star's music? Try playing one of their hit songs. Oh you can't because their music is not on the platform.

This is simply false.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by lucsky » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 8:46 AM UTC

nperrier wrote: post #138

hyperbovine wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For $15 a month I get access to (as far as my tastes are concerned) all the music ever recorded, instantly accessible from anywhere in the world on any device I own. I recall a commercial from the 90s that sort of poked fun at this exact idea, as being laughably farfetched and "sci-fi". You're damn right I'm happy.

Fan of Mazzy Star's music? Try playing one of their hit songs. Oh you can't because their music is not on the platform.

Yes it is. If it's not available for you then blame the fucktard lawyers who made the call that it should not be available wherever you are for some dumbfuck reason. Spotify is not responsible for this, they just comply with the aforementioned fucktard lawyers.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by lucsky » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 8:54 AM UTC

_carbyau_ wrote: post #79

hyperbovine wrote: post #44

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For $15 a month I get access to (as far as my tastes are concerned) all the music ever recorded, instantly accessible from anywhere in the world on any device I own. I recall a commercial from the 90s that sort of poked fun at this exact idea, as being laughably farfetched and "sci-fi". You're damn right I'm happy.

Meh, the two ideologies are a tradeoff decision. If you own, you don't pay subscription and can use that money to buy. And in tenuous circumstances you have control. If you subscribe, you don't pay money to buy massive library. But in tenuous circumstances you don't have control. Everybody rates the risk of tenuous circumstances differently and so that affects the decision outcome.

+1000

There's absolutely no way in hell I'm going back to hoarding stupid ass CDs or MP3/FLAC files when I can legally have immediate access to tens of millions of titles. I have absolutely zero interest in the "owning" part but I understand some people would prefer it.