Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones

Post by bloppe » Tue, Mar 18, 2025, 7:03 PM UTC

basisword wrote: post #245

Volundr wrote: post #150

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That's all well and good. Opting into that knowingly is a reasonable decision. Hopefully knowing you've opted into that you aren't then cursing Google when they don't support some functionality blocked by Apple, or when RCS is poorly supported, but instead recognizing this as a trade-off you made opting into the Apple closed garden.

The reason Apple Maps even exists is because Google intentionally crippled their Maps app on iPhone in order to benefit their own OS. The reason Google loves RCS is because they spectacularly failed 4 or 5 times at introducing their own iMessage competitors. Competing companies often act in their best interests. And both Google and Apple offer OS’s which have very different value systems. I think that’s good for cons…

Post by sbuk » Tue, Mar 18, 2025, 7:06 PM UTC

bhelkey wrote: post #220

rahkiin wrote: post #122

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Which they never advertised it to be. Nor is my toaster and my oven or my xbox

~70% of the 8 billion people in this world use a smartphone [1]. It is the primary computer for a huge percentage of these people [2]. Comparing mobile phones to toasters, ovens and gaming consoles is disingenuous. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/203734/global-smartphone... [2] https://gs.statcounter.com/platform-market-share/desktop-mob...

Post by bloppe » Tue, Mar 18, 2025, 7:07 PM UTC

sbuk wrote: post #279

Volundr wrote: post #150

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That's all well and good. Opting into that knowingly is a reasonable decision. Hopefully knowing you've opted into that you aren't then cursing Google when they don't support some functionality blocked by Apple, or when RCS is poorly supported, but instead recognizing this as a trade-off you made opting into the Apple closed garden.

RCS is supported per the standard . Google's implementation uses proprietary extensions. It's not the ivory tower you seem to think it is.

Post by parsimo2010 » Tue, Mar 18, 2025, 7:08 PM UTC

enragedcacti wrote: post #218

parsimo2010 wrote: post #33

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Obviously this is going to be up for debate, but in your comment you acknowledge that "go build one for Android" is an option. This is an indication that your complaint is not in Apple's behavior, but your regret that the competition sucks and it's not Apple's fault. Apple is not a market on their own from the perspective of smart phones and watches, every person making a purchasing decision has options (This is diff…

> your complaint is not in Apple's behavior, but your regret that the competition sucks and it's not Apple's fault Apple uses their dominant position in the smartphone market to exert leverage over the smartwatch market and block other companies' access to a huge chunk of potential smartwatch buyers. Reduced addressable market->reduced potential returns->reduced investment->worse products for everyone. This same patt…

Post by liquid_thyme » Tue, Mar 18, 2025, 7:08 PM UTC

sigmar wrote: post #293

Nifty3929 wrote: post #268

I think people forget that Apple is not making devices for the Hackernews community. They are making devices for people that just want something that works pretty well and has reasonable security - even to the extent of protecting them from themselves. They have other things to do with their time than learn about security vulnerabilities and how to avoid them. They want to just click 'yes' on every popup and expect t…

Couldn't you make that argument for literally any anticompetitive practice? Like in the 1990s: "Microsoft isn't making an OS for people that want to try different browsers"