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Re: Moving away from US cloud services

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he mentioned also Quad9 - Cloudflare DNS replacement. I didn't know about and will probably switch to it. My other picks: SEARCH: qwant (france) LLM: mistral (france), librechat.ai, openwebui VPN: mullvad (sweden), protonVPN (swiss) AUTH: OpenID (sadly seems like not many sevices implement it) CLOUD: Hetzner (germany), OVHCloud (france) MAPS: here wego, openstreetmap EMAIL: protonMail (swiss), fastmail (australia) DN…

I’m curious about mailbox.org, which markets themselves as “privacy made in Germany“

Discovered them recently. Price looks absolutely fair for what you get. It offers up to ten external addresses for sending and has a web interface so it looks like a solid Gmail alternative.

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Strange, I get them so much. It might be because I tweaked my user agent. I had to do this, because Microsoft is being obstinate and disabling a lot of M365 features if you're on Firefox on Linux. When I set my UA to Edge it suddenly works totally fine. I'm just a bit stuck with M365 due to my work, unfortunately.

So you answered the question right? You are blaming CF yet your change is causing CF to detect you as an untrusted browser. Not their fault.

No because there's nothing "untrusted" about my browser. Just because I'm not a slave of big tech?

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Sure there's more bureaucracy here but in the end they work out fine. Galileo works perfectly as a counterpart to GPS. GDPR was also a resounding success.

Is that the GDPR that has polluted the web with cookie notices?

Yes but that's only one tiny aspect of GDPR. Unfortunately this is an aspect where they caved in to corporate lobbying, they should have just mandated the obedience of the "do not track" flag (or a similar thing). That browsers set it by default is not a problem because the whole idea of GDPR is that tracking should be opt-in, not opt-out. But really this is a tiny part of GDPR. It is not just about the web even. And as annoying as the cookiewalls are, they also make the user more aware (I mean, why do you want permission to share my data with 572 "trusted partners"??). It also enforced some concepts that should already have been standard, like the purpose principle, explicit permission ("opt-in") etc.

It has really made companies much more aware of data handling. At work we have data protection officers now, privacy advocates, every app we onboard now has to be reviewed in terms of what the data is used for, where it ends up, if we have agreements with them in terms of what it's used for etc. This is really great because before we had pretty much nothing like that. It was just move fast and break things, including customers' privacy that would get broken. And our company is one that doesn't make any money from tracking our customers, so it wasn't really targeted as us, but it still drove so much improvement.

I think it will become much better now that we are disconnecting europe from US services. The main reason that tracking-informed ads are so much more valuable than context-informed ads, is that Google and Meta etc are promoting them. They control the auctions, and tracking is their moat. Nobody has such pervasive tracking networks as them.

The disconnection from these services could really be the trigger for an EU-based context-informed advertising service.

Re: Moving away from US cloud services

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So you answered the question right? You are blaming CF yet your change is causing CF to detect you as an untrusted browser. Not their fault.

No because there's nothing "untrusted" about my browser. Just because I'm not a slave of big tech?

It's not really "big tech slavery", cmon. A large majority of bots on the internet try to fake their User Agent to pretend to be someone else. Unfortunately, your browser does the same. When they compare your browsers signature with the expected user agent and real user agent, they find discrepancy and flag your browser as suspicious.

The real solution is to only modify your user agent for the MS apps you have trouble with, and all your captchas will disappear.

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> Wrapping up - Migrating away from US cloud services was easier than I expected. This is absolutely not the main takeaway and I find it difficult to see how he could write this - there are gaping holes. Git repos (it's too difficult). NPM (ditto). Startpage uses Google's index. The only meaningful switch he mentions is Proton, but as other comments have pointed out they have vendor lock-in problems. The real takeawa…

he mentioned also Quad9 - Cloudflare DNS replacement. I didn't know about and will probably switch to it. My other picks: SEARCH: qwant (france) LLM: mistral (france), librechat.ai, openwebui VPN: mullvad (sweden), protonVPN (swiss) AUTH: OpenID (sadly seems like not many sevices implement it) CLOUD: Hetzner (germany), OVHCloud (france) MAPS: here wego, openstreetmap EMAIL: protonMail (swiss), fastmail (australia) DN…

Also see https://european-alternatives.eu/alternatives-to

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No because there's nothing "untrusted" about my browser. Just because I'm not a slave of big tech?

It's not really "big tech slavery", cmon. A large majority of bots on the internet try to fake their User Agent to pretend to be someone else. Unfortunately, your browser does the same. When they compare your browsers signature with the expected user agent and real user agent, they find discrepancy and flag your browser as suspicious. The real solution is to only modify your user agent for the MS apps you have troubl…

No they don't because I had them too before I started using M365 and had to edit the UA. Maybe not as much, but I think the tracking protection also has a lot to do with it like another poster said.

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How do you think all these massive companies will successfully continue to operate in a country where the rule of law is no longer respected? Like I understand how that might sound like hyperbole, but everything I'm reading seems to indicate the USA is on an express train to hackville.

Bribery. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-tech-ceos-meta-amazon-don... (the risk is of course that the administration is not stable enough to stay bribed, or intra-oligarch fighting breaks out between Musk and one of the others)

Yes, plus for example helping out with surveillance, finding and stopping dissidents.

Fascism tends to be (I read/learned recently) friendly to big corporations, as long as they are loyal to the regime.

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How would you support E2E without the proxy? Not that the majority of people’s emails are truly E2E anyway on Proton, but still.

Decryption / encryption in email client. If (more) email clients handled this you wouldn't need protonmail.

Ok but are you going to send a petition to Apple or what? How are you going to practically solve this problem without a proxy?

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Interesting how for a (junior) dinosaur, like me, this was never a problem: I still run my mail, web, nextcloud, xmpp, forgejo, etc server on a former thin client under a cupboard. With a symmetrical fiber 1G connection it's been surprisingly reliable. FAQ: Yes, you can run self hosted mail. Yes, it's complex. No, it's not hard, but it takes time, as it is complex - if you want to understand it. If not, go for someth…

Can you please write more details about "I block many AI crawlers from accessing code and photos"? The bots are trying to access your nextcloud instance? I'm also self hosting a few services, including nextcloud.

No, not nextcloud, it's the photos on my website. They are CC-BY-NC-ND-4.0 licensed, which genAI doesn't respect in any form.

I added these in nginx.conf:

    map $http_user_agent $blocked_user_agent {
        default 0;
        "~*AI2Bot" 1;
        "~*AI2Bot-Dolma" 1;
        "~*Amazonbot" 1;
        "~*anthropic-ai" 1;
        "~*anthropic.com" 1;
        "~*Applebot" 1;
        "~*Applebot-Extended" 1;
        "~*AwarioBot" 1;
        "~*AwarioRssBot" 1;
        "~*AwarioSmartBot" 1;
        "~*Bytespider" 1;
        "~*CCBot" 1;
        "~*ChatGPT-User" 1;
        "~*ClaudeBot" 1;
        "~*Claude-Web" 1;
        "~*cohere-ai" 1;
        "~*cohere-training-data-crawler" 1;
        "~*DataForSeoBot" 1;
        "~*Diffbot" 1;
        "~*DuckAssistBot" 1;
        "~*FacebookBot" 1;
        "~*FriendlyCrawler" 1;
        "~*Googlebot-Extended" 1;
        "~*Google-CloudVertexBot" 1;
        "~*Google-Extended" 1;
        "~*GoogleOther" 1;
        "~*GoogleOther-Image" 1;
        "~*GoogleOther-Video" 1;
        "~*GPTBot" 1;
        "~*iaskspider/2.0" 1;
        "~*ICC-Crawler" 1;
        "~*ImagesiftBot" 1;
        "~*img2dataset" 1;
        "~*ISSCyberRiskCrawler" 1;
        "~*Kangaroo Bot" 1;
        "~*Meltwater" 1;
        "~*Meta-ExternalAgent" 1;
        "~*Meta-ExternalFetcher" 1;
        "~*OAI-SearchBot" 1;
        "~*Omgili" 1;
        "~*Omgilibot" 1;
        "~*openai.com" 1;
        "~*PanguBot" 1;
        "~*peer39_crawler" 1;
        "~*PerplexityBot" 1;
        "~*PetalBot" 1;
        "~*Scrapy" 1;
        "~*Seekr" 1;
        "~*SemrushBot" 1;
        "~*SemrushBot-OCOB" 1;
        "~*Sentibot" 1;
        "~*Sidetrade indexer bot" 1;
        "~*Timpibot" 1;
        "~*TurnitinBot" 1;
        "~*VelenPublicWebCrawler" 1;
        "~*webmeup-crawler.com" 1;
        "~*Webzio-Extended" 1;
        "~*YouBot" 1;
      }
and then in each site's config:

      location / { 
        if ($blocked_user_agent) {
            access_log /var/log/nginx/blockedbot.log ncsa;
            return 401;      
        }

But it's far from perfect. For better results, https://github.com/mitchellkrogza/nginx-ultimate-bad-bot-blo... is probably better, but it was a tad too much for my needs.

Re: Moving away from US cloud services

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A shame that OP recommends Proton. The fact they don't support open email protocols like IMAP/SMTP without an extremely frustrating proxy setup is what ultimately turned me away from their service. Being able to "just" use a native mail client is pretty much a must. The vendor lock-in from something like Proton feels way worse as a result. Can't speak to Proton Pass, but it strikes me as a replacement that seems unne…

What's a good alternative to Proton? Still haven't migrated my business away from Google Workspace, and I was thinking Proton would be a good alternative, but apparently not if they don't even support IMAP/SMTP.

Mailbox.org is one I like

For a more business oriented replacement that can (mostly) replace gmail, google drive, docs, sheets, etc.. Zoho One is pretty good.

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