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Federal workers ordered to return to offices without desks, Wi-Fi and lights

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Are you seriously making an argument that workers have worse conditions now than in the 60s? Feel free to make an argument that we are moving in the wrong direction NOW, but not that we have moved in the wrong direction entirely since the 60s.

40 years ago would be after 1985.

"40+" not "40 exactly".

Are you implying that you agree things were worse in the 60s, but somehow magically at their prime in 85?

Or are you just being pedantic?

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"Bad government is the natural product of rule by those who believe government is bad." - Thomas Frank

We have like 100 years of bad government by people who love government to dispel this nonsense.

So 1920 to today. The period over which America transitioned from a regional power to the global hegemon and the richest country to ever exist.

Certainly since Reagan things have been slowly going downhill but up until then..

What does “good” look like? Perfection?

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The next tax cuts are why they're going ham tryign to find things to cut because it's going to blow an enormous whole in the deficit.

Well technically the existing tax cuts already did blow a whole in the budget; its keeping them that's at play here. Its one of the reasons Trump was popular amongst his base - he cut taxes but didn't cut spending, so many people got a tax boost without any austerity. People can hand wave the spending as spurious Democrat led initiatives because there's no real discussion amongst the base about how to actually cover…

Yea the existing ones extending is what I was referring to when I said "new" which obviously isn't the right word for extending existing ones.

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Interesting that the CNN article makes no mention of how badly under-utilized government office spaces are. https://wolfstreet.com/2025/01/25/doge-seeks-to-shed-vast-am... “A recent report from Sen. Joni Ernst, a Republican from Iowa who chairs the Senate DOGE caucus, found that not one of the headquarters for any major agency or department in Washington is more than half full. GSA-owned buildings in Washington, D.C.…

Your article said GSA pays $5.2 billion in annual rent to private-sector landlords. Fiscal year 2024 discretionary spending was $1.6 trillion. So we are discussing 0.33%.

Commercial leases are 5 or 10 years commonly. Many of the leases began before 2020 probably.

Owned real estate increases in value in high demand markets and is difficult to sell in low demand markets.

Completion of work can be and is tracked remotely.

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> “The only thing a return to the office has given me is an hour of traffic while driving and a loss in efficiency,” said the worker, who requested anonymity for fear of job reprisals. RTO in a nutshell. As someone who chose my living location based on where my family wants to live first and jobs second, this sudden turn to RTO mandates is infinitely depressing. Most of my work involves talking to people in different…

It's insane that anyone actually believes that it's being done for efficiency. It's not, and never was. It's being done a) to drive people to quit, so they don't have to lay them off, and b) to restore the power dynamic to the status quo ante , where your manager could just look over at your cubicle and see you in your seat, and know that whether or not you were working , you were still there to bow to them. (And man…

In addition to your points about managers (upper and middle) being bad at their jobs, the c-suite must consider that sometimes tax breaks for the company hinge on physically bringing workers to a specific place: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2023-02-21/another-t...

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Vought?wprov=sfti1#Pro...

Just so everyone is aware, Vought is the man behind the moron (the Donny). He is the architect of Project 2025.

His goal is to traumatize the civil service to bring about a re-christianization of America, which he believes can only be done by expanding the power of the executive branch.

We are living through the machinations of a religious fanatic.

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USA 2024 population was ~340.1 million (census estimate). 156,302,318 voted (~63.9% of ~244 million eligible voters, extrapolated) 77.3 million voted for Trump (~49.8% of voters). So that's ~31.6% of eligible voters or ~22.7% of the US population.

Welp, maybe those eligible voters who didn't vote will remember next time that not voting is the same as voting for the winner.

I didn't vote. I have various (bad) reasons:

- I live in a deeply partisan state where the outcome was predetermined: a disproportionate amount of those who didn't vote would have to vote in the opposite of those who voted (if I lived in a different state the pressure to vote would have been greater)

- I lack an easy means to get to my polling location and my state makes absentee ballots difficult to get

- I would have probably also needed to do some ID stuff (my ID is currently expired, for reasons)

- Registering to vote puts my name/address/registered party/etc onto easily searchable public websites like https://voterrecords.com/

My reasons aren't great but they're reasons. If there was less friction to voting I would have voted, as I recognize it's an important civic duty.

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Yes, it's a valuable lesson that, though it may become a nazi cesspit and vastly more annoying to interact with, an organization can survive for a surprisingly long time as a shambolic remnant of its former self, doing less and less well for fewer people. As I understand it: - twitter became less appealing to advertisers so revenue dropped - you can't really firmly track the valuation over time after it was delisted…

It still works last time I checked – with fraction of headcount and with people working from the office. Twitter had few months runway until it'd run out of money and go bankrupt. Bloomberg analysis says (despite advertisers and communities leave etc) platform earnings seem to be staying at $1.2 billion a year. Reports from Feb 2025 say that X doubled its adjusted EBITDA (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation…

> Twitter had few months runway until it'd run out of money and go bankrupt.

The only source I found for this claim was Elon Musk. Do you know a credible source?

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Trump & Musk will walk out trillionaires, so they couldn't care less.

If the US collapses, Trump & Musk will be worth 0.

Let's hope they go to jail before the US collapses.
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