Why Clojure?

Post by lucyjojo » Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 4:49 PM UTC

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I gave Clojure a shot some years ago and even wrote an important tool used daily by all employees at our company in Clojure. The problem for me was maintenance. If I had to make any change to that code, I had to dive into the REPL just to understand it. Whereas with something like Java, even if something is poorly written and not documented, I can get at least a minimum understanding of the code just looking at the t…

What about core.typed. I find gradual type systems to be hard to work with for some reason.

core.typed main problem for many years was that it was maintained by 1 (busy) student.

i don't know about nowadays though, he probably has graduated long ago!

nowadays i'd just use core.spec/malli/other honestly (for what i use clojure for).

Post by phtrivier » Sat, Mar 01, 2025, 8:35 PM UTC

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What language ecosystem does this right?

Go

And rust. And elixir. And caml, which, after many years, settled on dune. And, apparently, common lisp, which settled on ASDF sometime before I reached puberty. And, probably, every language born after java.

Which is all the weirder : rich hickey could (should ?) have figure that "building infra" was one of the aspect where clojure was a great fit ("lein as an ant+maven killer.") To be fair, it wasn't as much in the zeitgeist at the time.

Still, a new language nowadays must have, on aday one, a package manager and a linter and a formatter and a test runner, etc... - just like it must have an LSP.

It's funny looking a zig trying to fight this.

It's funny watching roc reinventing that weel.

I guess jblow will rationalize against it for jai.

I wonder if someone is going to standardize "the rest" of the toolchain. ("Language dependency manager protocol", anyone ?)

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