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Re: Run DeepSeek R1 Dynamic 1.58-bit

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What they meant is buying two whole separate computers.

I understand. It is still unclear if you can get 128GB vram for $3k.

Well, I mean, the press release is pretty unambiguous.

>Each Project DIGITS features 128GB of unified, coherent memory and up to 4TB of NVMe storage.

Even if $3k is only the starting price, it doesn't sound like spending more buys you more memory.

Re: Run DeepSeek R1 Dynamic 1.58-bit

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Random observation 1: I was running DeepSeek yesterday on my Linux with a RTX 4090 and I noticed that the models should fit into VRAM, which is 24GB. Or they are simply slow. So the Apple shared memory architecture has an advantage here. A 192GB Mx Ultra can load and process large models efficiently. Random observation 2: It's time to cancel the OpenAI subscription.

idk, in my daily work i still see o1 being more useful, did you observe both having the same reasoning power?

Re: Run DeepSeek R1 Dynamic 1.58-bit

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand. It is still unclear if you can get 128GB vram for $3k.

Well, I mean, the press release is pretty unambiguous. >Each Project DIGITS features 128GB of unified, coherent memory and up to 4TB of NVMe storage. Even if $3k is only the starting price, it doesn't sound like spending more buys you more memory.

Ok, but it is not clear what kind of RAM is that, how many memory channels, etc. If the goal is to have just 128GB of some ram, then it could be achieved by paying few $100.

Re: Run DeepSeek R1 Dynamic 1.58-bit

#304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, I mean, the press release is pretty unambiguous. >Each Project DIGITS features 128GB of unified, coherent memory and up to 4TB of NVMe storage. Even if $3k is only the starting price, it doesn't sound like spending more buys you more memory.

Ok, but it is not clear what kind of RAM is that, how many memory channels, etc. If the goal is to have just 128GB of some ram, then it could be achieved by paying few $100.

Fine, but at that point you're arguing about the concept of the product. It's billed as a computer for AI and you're saying that it might not be more suitable for AI than a regular PC.

Re: Run DeepSeek R1 Dynamic 1.58-bit

#305

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Ok, but it is not clear what kind of RAM is that, how many memory channels, etc. If the goal is to have just 128GB of some ram, then it could be achieved by paying few $100.

Fine, but at that point you're arguing about the concept of the product. It's billed as a computer for AI and you're saying that it might not be more suitable for AI than a regular PC.

it is possible that one could build better PC than digits for AI. We will see once they release digits.

Re: Run DeepSeek R1 Dynamic 1.58-bit

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Is there a tool that can automate chaining like that?

Aider has an architect mode where it asks one model to plan out the changes and another to actually write the code.

I've used it today, with R1 as architect and Sonnet as editor model. So far, this works great. There's no need to use a reasoning model as editor IMO.

Alex (https://alexcodes.app) also does this now btw.

Re: Run DeepSeek R1 Dynamic 1.58-bit

#308
Is this actually 1.58 bits? (Log base 2 of 3) I heard of another "1.58 bit" model that actually used 2 bits instead. "1.6 bit" is easy enough, you can pack five 3-state values into a byte by using values 0-242. Then unpacking is easy, you divide and modulo by 3 up to five times (or use a lookup table).

Re: Run DeepSeek R1 Dynamic 1.58-bit

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Not everyone needs the largest model. There are variations or R1 with fewer parameters that can easily run on consumer hardware. With 80% size reduction you could run 70B on 8-bit on an RTX 3090. Other than that, if you really need the big one you can get six 3090s and you're good to go. It's not cheap, but you're running a ChatGPT equivalent model from your basement. A year ago this was a wetdream for most enthusias…

Or if you want a large model but don’t need high performance, get a Mac with 128GB UMA.

How many tokens/s would you get in such a setup?

Re: Run DeepSeek R1 Dynamic 1.58-bit

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Has it been tried on 128GB M4 MacBook Pro? I'm gonna try it, but I guess it will be too slow to be usable. I love the original DeepSeek model, but the distilled versions are too dumb usually. I'm excited to try my own queries on it.

I'm downloading it now and will report back. (I've been using the 32B and while it could always be better, I'm not unhappy with it)

How'd it go, and which client are you using? :)
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