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Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Maybe if we learned about the 1800’s in school things would be going better now.

We learned that we’ve progressed and that we’re totally different people now, so obviously we can’t end up with the same problems if we’re stupid about it. (/s, kinda) At least smallpox has been eradicated (except for potentially some bio weapons labs), so hopefully our stupidity won’t bring that back.

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Wouldn't this have showed up in the reports last year when the numbers were actively happening? There's been 1 case this year it says. If the ideology was what you're saying, then wouldn't they want to spread the info and blame it on the "dirty illegals" or whatever?

This year has been a rough start for HN. The political commentary is infecting every thread.

Yes. Becsuse this is an issue that will be slower to respond to because of political actions. Do we really want to skirt around the issue?

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That's because it's an extremely big deal and affects many things discussed here.

It's because people now treat parties like they used to treat football teams.

I don't care if Jesus himself froze the CDC. It was an o srly hasty action at best and it will unnecessarily cost some lives.

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I would argue that being rabidly apolitical while a dangerous threat to western democracy has been growing in America for years is the rough part. I'm an old person. I have a leftist bent. I used to get along with many conservatives, I just had different policy viewpoints than they did. What we are seeing now is a completely different political landscape where one of the parties is actively setting up a dynastic plut…

> I would argue that being rabidly apolitical while a dangerous threat to western democracy has been growing in America for years is the rough part. Some of us are just here as technology professionals looking to learn and keep current on the latest trends. There's nothing wrong with that.

Certainly. So what interested you on this story that is more about medicine on HN?

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Trump offered tangible things while the opponent offered a much more though out philosophy and platform (even if one i disagree with). The fact Trump offered to pardon Ross was enough to make me feel incredibly guilty for not voting for him. I was surprised he found a way to get to me like that, but reality and practical negotiation can be quite persuasive over ideology. I suspect Trump had at least one important thi…

>The fact Trump offered to pardon Ross was enough to make me feel incredibly guilty for not voting for him

There's not much to it. Trump wanted the libertarian vote, libertarians wanted Ross free.

He was pardoning a bunch of treasonists, he could clip in a little bit of good on the size.

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Democracy doesn't mean "accept what the current administration does with no criticism, because they were democratically elected"

It does make ones eyes glaze over when American politics is everywhere you look. In every thread, about every topic. And each comment thread has 50 highly emotional comments that you have to scroll through to find the 5 few thoughtful comments near the bottom discussing the article, without going off the rails.

This is about medicine. How many people are claiming to separate medicine from politics? And how is this off the rails?

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I at least didn't read any of the links because I couldn't care less beyond seeing what everyone was talking about in a thread about tuberculosis in the US. My point still stands that if someone doesn't want to see conversations regarding the US, politics or otherwise, maybe he should stay out of threads regarding the US and maybe also find other forums not hosted in America and managed by Americans where the vast ma…

That’s a wholly unambitious worldview Online communities need constant self checking and introspection to not go off the deepend. This isn’t like Reddit where you can unsubscribe from the crazy big politics subreddits or unfollow people on Twitter. I still think the old ideal of HN where we have some higher goal than yet another US political rant forum is still worth fighting for. > I couldn't care less beyond seeing…

This is HN and I'm sure there are all kinds of filters people have made as add-ons if news like this truly bothers you. Users here are more than likely to make their own as well. You can also always reach out to Dang for feature requests. I'm never going to not want more flexibility in my newsfeed.

>. 66 people almost entirely in 2 counties isn’t exactly a national statistics collection issue

Patient zero starts somewhere. It's not national news per se when a few individuals die of an unidentified disease either.

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> It is treatable with antibiotics. Treating it casually has led to widespread resistance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multidrug-resistant_tuberculos... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensively_drug-resistant_tub... > People with an active infection feel sick and can spread it to others, while people with a latent infection don't feel sick and can't spread it. https://www.who.int/teams/global-tuberculosis-programm…

>Treating it casually has led to widespread resistance. I have long suspected this as part of why the subject isn't much discussed, despite being more prevalent than most realize. The elephant here is (aside from latent infection) the atypically long duration of treatment, which can exceed 6 months and is harsh. Many, even otherwise responsible people, will founder before the proper end of treatment and this, I think…

"It's probably time we start looking a bit harder for "natural" or alternate treatments. Some in medical journals, are under scrutiny, but inconclusive."

Antibiotics are found in, and derived from, nature.

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Experiments consistently and repeatedly show that when given practical descriptions of policy actions and outcomes, the majority of Americans do not choose the ones that republicans promote. BUT when told that they are Republican policies, then about half of Americans do support those policies.

Well then, liberal politicians aren't doing a very good job, are they? This is like a cliche from the chess world, where the guy who lost the game, then does a postmortem to convince everyone that he was actually winning the whole time. "Except for that one little blunder." The Dems keep losing losing losing, but rather than figure out how to fight better, you instead try to convince yourself that people support you.…

The only lesson I get is that the segregation of education over 40-50 years or so is finally showing its consequences (well it did so 20 years ago. But it's only more polarized now). A chess player at least has the knowledge and willingness to improve and learn from lost matches. The average American... Not so much.

And you didn't really offer much feedback here. Which is part of the problems. I don't really care to bicker over single issue details like this.

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>Treating it casually has led to widespread resistance. I have long suspected this as part of why the subject isn't much discussed, despite being more prevalent than most realize. The elephant here is (aside from latent infection) the atypically long duration of treatment, which can exceed 6 months and is harsh. Many, even otherwise responsible people, will founder before the proper end of treatment and this, I think…

>It's probably time we start looking a bit harder for "natural" or alternate treatments. Some in medical journals, are under scrutiny, but inconclusive. We are looking, quite hard, in fact. Mycobacterium tuberculosis is among the most studied microörganisms. Like HIV, it is notable particularly for being able to defeat the attempts of the immune system cells to kill it, and it in fact infects and reproduces within ma…

This - TB is very well studied compared to most infectious diseases. I think really only HIV and Malaria edge it out.
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