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Supreme Court upholds TikTok ban, but Trump might offer lifeline

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Re: Supreme Court upholds TikTok ban, but Trump might offer lifeline

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So what are the real dangers?

- Frying teenagers' brains with short attention deficit videos. That one seems logical, but others are doing it, too.

- Political indoctrination.

- Compromised politicians who can be blackmailed: The big one, but a certain island run by the daughter of a certain intelligence agency operative was largely ignored.

- Corporate espionage: Probably not happening on TikTok. Certainly happening in the EU using US products.

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TikTok is perhaps the most impressively addictive social media app ever created. The algorithm used in the US was apparently banned in China for being too addictive. There's a certain historic symmetry with how opium was traditionally used in China, then Britain introduced stronger, more disruptive versions, forcing a stronger social reaction. Geopolitics aside, I think everyone is kind of aware that social media is…

You could substitute anything you don't like (gambling, alcohol, gacha games, convenience foods, televised sports, reality TV) for "social media" in the above and it makes as much sense.

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Link to opinion: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24-656_ca7d.pdf

And it was an unanimous decision. When was the last time we had those for such an impactful decision I wonder?

"Impactful" might be counting your chickens a little too early. Let's see if it has any impact. The next POTUS might just ignore it, or some other shenanigans might be used to work around whatever the imagined impact was.

Re: Supreme Court upholds TikTok ban, but Trump might offer lifeline

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TikTok is perhaps the most impressively addictive social media app ever created. The algorithm used in the US was apparently banned in China for being too addictive. There's a certain historic symmetry with how opium was traditionally used in China, then Britain introduced stronger, more disruptive versions, forcing a stronger social reaction. Geopolitics aside, I think everyone is kind of aware that social media is…

> TikTok is perhaps the most impressively addictive social media app ever created. What nonsense. > The algorithm used in the US was apparently banned in China for being too addictive. "Apparently"? Tiktok was forced to separate itself into a chinese version and the non-chinese version by the US because we didn't want "da ccp" controlling tiktok. > There's a certain historic symmetry with how opium was traditionally…

> Tiktok was forced to separate itself into a chinese version and the non-chinese version by the US because we didn't want "da ccp" controlling tiktok

No. TikTok was forced to put its data on American servers [1].

Douyin was launched in 2016 as musical.ly, and is unrelated to U.S. pressure. (EDIT: Douyin was launched in 2016, TikTok in 2017. Musical.ly was acquired in 2017 and merged into/basically became TikTok. TikTok has never been in China.)

[1] https://www.reuters.com/technology/tiktok-moves-us-user-data...

Re: Supreme Court upholds TikTok ban, but Trump might offer lifeline

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TikTok is perhaps the most impressively addictive social media app ever created. The algorithm used in the US was apparently banned in China for being too addictive. There's a certain historic symmetry with how opium was traditionally used in China, then Britain introduced stronger, more disruptive versions, forcing a stronger social reaction. Geopolitics aside, I think everyone is kind of aware that social media is…

I don't understand the argument here, Tik Tok would maximize their monetization in US but not in other markets? I don't buy it.

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