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Tesla reports 1.1% sales drop for 2024, first annual decline in at least 9 years

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You cannot relate to describing someone’s subjective opinion as blatantly false? Teslas may be bought across the spectrum, none of that is remotely relevant. Tesla owners are often insufferable to listen to as they go on and on about their cars, like they make vegans seem a treat by comparison, that alone may dissuade people - I know it does for me.

with such a bias towards tesla owners it would be wise if you didn’t get yourself involved in these types of discussions. “tesla sucks because tesla owners are terrible…” :)

I gave a subjective reason for a preference, the difference is I didn’t pretend it was anything other than an opinion.

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Please don't perpetuate flamewars on HN. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Okay, dang, my bad - I should never have replied to the comment in the first place.

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Okay, dang, my bad - I should never have replied to the comment in the first place.

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It does not go down to 15kw. At old Tesla stations it went from 150kw to 75kw. Any v3 station (first introduced in 2019!) will stay at 150kw to 250kw. I haven't seen a v2 station in 2 years now. You also don't need a battery based on its age, you need it based on its mileage. Some people like my wife only drive 8k miles a year, which is more around 20 years...

> It does not go to 15kw It goes to whatever the software tells it to, which is based on the following factors: - What percentage the battery is at when it starts charging - Environmental conditions (cold/heat) - How many other cars are being charged (IIRC most super charger stations don't supply the max amps * the number of ports - they assume some cars will be throttled) A v3 can get up to 250 kW but only under opt…

Dude you're flat out guessing about how they work, and you're embarrassingly wrong about the results. V3 Superchargers reliably output 250kW every time you pull up. Their power sharing between cabinets ensures this. Environmental conditions don't affect them due to very efficient thermal management and preconditioning.

They explicitly said this about their new V4s:

> Posts can peak up to 500kW for cars, but we need less than 1MW across 8 posts to deliver maximum power to cars 99% of the time

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Why's there so much hate for Tesla here on HN?

I just think they're bad cars. The "minimalist interior" is just a way to cheap out on features and they're not built that great. Hyundai or Rivian have some great EV offerings for same price or cheaper.

Every brand has been trending towards the designs Tesla put out 5-10 years prior. Their minimalist interiors are cute, cozy

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Indeed it does.

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I could explain to a child how printing new money causes inflation, which we did twice since COVID. How does the wealth gap cause inflation?

> I could explain to a child how printing new money causes inflation, which we did twice since COVID. We've printed money a dozen times in the 30 years prior to 2022. Economists predicted that all of them would cause inflation. None of them did. In 2022 we had money printing and a supply side squeeze. Insisting that the inflation was caused by the money printing rather than the supply side squeeze takes incredible ch…

The money printing in response to COVID followed by the the infrastructure bill were at a scale not seen before and shouldn't be so easily dismissed in reference to previous deficit spending.
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