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A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Nature cameras are relatively hard to conceal (from humans), whereas AirTags are very easy to conceal.

They are also very bad for tracking compared to what you can get on Aliexpress/eBay/Amazon (which are the same tbh). For about the same price you can get a device with a SIM card and GPS/GLONASS and _zero_ ways to detect it.

Can you give a couple of example products? I am very curious.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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You'd think so, but America is the most armed country in the world and most of us have had something stolen. I think the overall sentiment is "I'm like 99% going to get away with this and pawn it for money" and they're right.

Not all AirTags exist within the US :)

There are other places? Really I just assumed he meant here because he mentioned people getting unnecessarily violent.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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post #258

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When I lived in California I wrapped a bunch of chain around the cat on my truck. Wasn't actually that secure but thieves see a ton of chain and padlocks and go "ehhhh keep moving."

Around the cat? That must mean something different than I am imagining.

Short for catalytic converter.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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Not a bad price, but it does require an existing Airtag. Ten years is a very long time in tech. I wouldn't be confident that the Airtag protocol will be functioning in 2035, and there are already rumors of a new Airtag and possibly a newer protocol coming up.

If Apple kills existing Airtags any time soon they effectively kill the product line. So they won’t.

If the product line stops making sense or enough money they'll kill it. They're no Google, but it won't be the first product line that goes belly up.

The best scenario would be an industry standard that is widely more interesting than AirTags and works around the current compromises, letting Apple expand support to a wider audience. E.g. if the stalking problem had an elegant solution.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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post #81

I know this is useful (for something), but I'm stuck on the plot holes in the motivating story... Why didn't they replace the battery when the app complained? How long would a thief really keep the AirTag anyway? If the thief did keep the AirTag and you tracked them down, then what? A confrontation has a fairly high chance to have a worse result than losing some equipment. You could try to get the police to do it, bu…

A lot of those thiefs are not hardened criminals, because the payoff for this kind of crime is usually a small fraction of the actual value of the things stolen. Most of time it is the average wimpy addict and the reason he resort to this kind of criminal activity is preciselly because he is not ready for the violent potential of more profitable criminal activities. If you relativelly fit, and have some experience wi…

"If you relativelly fit, and have some experience with actual fights or training in martial arts, it is not that stupid to try to recover your stuff."

Anyone with actual experience will tell you that no amount of training will save you from the lucky stab/shot/unknown. Sure, you might win 9/10 times, but is that worth it? Sometimes maybe, other times no. Usually it's better to notify police and let the system handle it. If you handle it yourself, the system in many jurisdictions will fuck you just as bad as the real criminal unless you actively witnessed it or were attacked first.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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post #195

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>it is not supposed to start chirping unless it is out of range of your phone for at least 8 days, and not in one of the predefined geofence regions you can setup where it won't chirp. Does it even chirp then? This is news to me, I have an airtag in my car and have certainly left it for 2 weeks during vacations. I've never heard the airtag chirp unless I make it play a sound through "Find My"

Your home is usually automatically geofenced, so if you left it there it shouldn't chirp. If you parked your car elsewhere, e.g. an airport lot it was probably chirping while you were gone, but you wouldn't hear it because you weren't there.

oh lol interesting. I wonder how many people I have been annoying with the constant sound. This seemed like a perfect setup, but apparently not.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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post #81

I know this is useful (for something), but I'm stuck on the plot holes in the motivating story... Why didn't they replace the battery when the app complained? How long would a thief really keep the AirTag anyway? If the thief did keep the AirTag and you tracked them down, then what? A confrontation has a fairly high chance to have a worse result than losing some equipment. You could try to get the police to do it, bu…

A lot of those thiefs are not hardened criminals, because the payoff for this kind of crime is usually a small fraction of the actual value of the things stolen. Most of time it is the average wimpy addict and the reason he resort to this kind of criminal activity is preciselly because he is not ready for the violent potential of more profitable criminal activities. If you relativelly fit, and have some experience wi…

> Really, at some time we need to stop glorifying cowardice and reclaim a little bit of dignity.

And getting into a physical fight with real injury potential because of an item?

If it is a cheap thing it is not worth it. If it is more expensive usually the law is on your side. Either way, there's no need for physical confrontation.

> the reason he resort to this kind of criminal activity is preciselly because he is not ready for the violent potential of more profitable criminal activities.

That's a gamble. What if the reason is that, although the thief _could_ be violent, they were smart enough to realize that they can get more results with less personal risk? In which case, your 'martial arts' training is meaningless when you have a knife or a bullet going through you.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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post #264

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Those Persians look like fluffy dusters, but mess with a man's truck that one is guarding, and it'll flip out like a ninja angel of bloody vengeance. When you buy a new F-150, a Persian guard cat is an even more essential add-on than a bed liner.

If you live in a city, yeah maybe. I have 3 removed cats in the toolbox of my truck, which I don’t lock, and neither they nor the truck have been touched. I even loaned the truck out to a rando on Facebook marketplace when I gave a fridge away, for free. Truck and cats came back

I think that in your eagerness to malign cities, you might have missed the joke.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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post #108

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This is not at all in line with how Apple operates, it's diametrically opposed to it in fact. I suppose you could contradict me by providing a list of the products Apple has deprecated this way. Can you?

It's exactly how Apple operates. The last Apple device with Firewire was produced in 2012, though it was sold for several more years. MacOS 13 (2022) dropped the Firewire CoreAudio driver (as well as other, more niche support for Firewire). So... exactly 10 years. If you're going to put me in a bucket, I'd be in the "Apple Hater" bucket, but I honestly think that the way that they do this is fine. It would have been…

You’re right Apple has a playbook of changing port types every few years, but there are adaptors available. The devices themselves still work, just that Apple knows they can use this one trick to encourage some customers to upgrade.

With wireless devices, protocol changes would brick the device, so they’d be less likely to do it so quickly. As far as I know, Apple haven’t announced any plans to deprecate the original Airpods, which came out 8 years ago and use some custom protocols alongside vanilla Bluetooth.

Maybe in the future they’ll start deprecating parts of the protocol (“in order to save your phone’s battery life” or something), but I don’t believe they have so far.

Re: A 10-Year Battery for AirTag

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post #81

I know this is useful (for something), but I'm stuck on the plot holes in the motivating story... Why didn't they replace the battery when the app complained? How long would a thief really keep the AirTag anyway? If the thief did keep the AirTag and you tracked them down, then what? A confrontation has a fairly high chance to have a worse result than losing some equipment. You could try to get the police to do it, bu…

Come to latam and you'll see some intense confrontation when something gets stolen. I was in a hostel when someone broke into lockers and they tracked him to the a bus station and got all their stuff back + dude in handcuffs to police station.
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