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Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by result2vino »

thekevan wrote: post #121

I still feel that an enormous amount of why threads shows up in data analytics is because Instagram just added it on and made an account for everyone. It wasn't adopted, it was falsely created. I'd go even further to say that it isn't a social network, it's an add-on to another social network.

No they don’t. That’s untrue. The fact that so many replies are speaking as if it’s true is quite telling. Instagram continually pesters me to create a Threads account, but doesn’t just “make one for me”. Threads’ user growth would look very very different if this were true. It’s another app. Instagram won’t even let you expand one of the stupid Threads posts it shows you until you install the app.

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Post by result2vino »

rightbyte wrote: post #294
jazzyjackson wrote: post #205

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It's so transparent too, the way every single threads post shown in the Instagram widget ends halfway through with "..." I've managed to never go there because I'm only on Instagram for the pretty pictures

Aha I see clearly now. So that is my Reddit make you reload a comment thread when you click the 'expand thread' sometimes. To get more add views? I just thought it was inline with all their other crappy ux choises. In this case they want to increase some KPI instead.

Christ. Some people are willing to believe anything when it affirms their baseless beliefs. You’ve taken some reply that was about another situation entirely and let it convince you. I can think of multiple more likely explanations. Enough for this to at least be in the “who knows?” bucket.

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Post by Jensson »

hooverd wrote: post #261
trustinmenowpls wrote: post #256

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idk, I specifically go to twitter for my political fix and when I go to the for you section I see a ton of liberal stuff and a ton of conservative stuff, many posts are unhinged in either direction. Others are more moderate, in general I don't really follow any political accounts, and yet I see a many posts that give me a great view of the zeitgeist for each side.

Eh, post Musk I see may more straight-up StormFront shit from "verified" posters.

The question was what he censored, not what was allowed. Allowing something is not a case of censorship.

Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by [deleted] »

empthought wrote: post #226
Pufferbo wrote: post #165

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There’s multiple feeds, which is one of its main features. There’s user created feeds, which are just aggregates of tags and keywords. These are alright, but prone to issues with cross domain terminology. ie, say you want a football/soccer feed and use the word “spurs”, you’ll end up having it filled with basketball and rodeo posts. The two default feeds are your followed accounts in chronological order, the other is…

No matter how many times I choose "Show less like this" on furry manga art in the algorithmic feed, I still see it show up. :(

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Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by ogou »

Threads attracted a lot of people that I left behind on Facebook. It also gets a lot of people that cross-post to every platform. I can't think of a single post that I saw and still remember.

Bluesky lets you block reposts and that has been the killer feature for me. Original content from people I choose is the best recipe for my tastes. Also, I spend a lot of time on niche creative feeds and really enjoy the things I see.

I also like the idea of seeing regional and local feeds. That was an interesting part of early Twitter that was obliterated by national political emphasis. No more political hot takes, where is a good Korean BBQ spot?

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Post by Yizahi »

thekevan wrote: post #121

I still feel that an enormous amount of why threads shows up in data analytics is because Instagram just added it on and made an account for everyone. It wasn't adopted, it was falsely created. I'd go even further to say that it isn't a social network, it's an add-on to another social network.

That's false. I've tried their app once and they certainly did not made an account automatically.

Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by Yizahi »

jazzyjackson wrote: post #205
sockaddr wrote: post #116

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I’d bet Meta is counting all the random Instagram users that accidentally interact with the forced threads clickbait posts in their feed.

It's so transparent too, the way every single threads post shown in the Instagram widget ends halfway through with "..." I've managed to never go there because I'm only on Instagram for the pretty pictures

You can't interact with that without creating a Threads account (manually) and without having Threads app installed at the moment of click on the Instagram embed. And if you did that, you are a proper user of Threads, so no double count happens.

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Post by pengowray »

unnamed76ri wrote: post #53
shigawire wrote: post #13

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There is more momentum against Musk now than when threads launched. Not sure it is enough to overcome the network effect - but there is a lot of illwill towards his projects. I can see how something like SpaceX is overall a net good, but I don't see that upside for X.

Free speech is the upside of X. People leaving to join the echo chambers of Bluesky or Threads, only serves to turn X into the echo chamber they claim it is.

There is no "free speech" on X. Musk has banned journalists. Banned users he didn't like. Arbitrarily banned random words. Banned links to Mastodon. Banned links to linktree. Encouraged harassment of users and news organizations until they left the platform. Banned links to articles about political candidates. No unpaid user's reply can appear in the replies to one of Musk's tweets in any practical sense. X is not a free speech platform. Musk is a liar. He is lying to you. You are being lied to. If you think X has anything resembling "free speech" I have bridge made of solar powered tiles to sell you. (That was another scam of Musk's if you missed it). The lively debate you crave does not and cannot happen on X.

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Post by plufz »

citizenkeen wrote: post #176
hughesjj wrote: post #143

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It reminds me of google plus. Technically better than the existing top dog, but the forced migration and trying to bootstrap with a huge but only semi involved userbase let it fizzle soon after the start. Has there ever been a successful case of bootstrapping a new social media product with an existing userbase? Like not just added features or merging two together.

Google+ was wildly successful in certain circles. Tabletop RPG design still hasn’t entirely recovered from its loss. Google+ was successful from any real metric but it didn’t replace Facebook so it was axed.

By which metrics was Google+ successful? I don’t doubt you, I just never heard that before.

Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by plufz »

result2vino wrote: post #299
dgeiser13 wrote: post #201

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For the most part the types of people who find Instagram interesting (and would have a Threads account created automatically) are simply not the audience for a tool like Bluesky (or Twitter).

This is dripping with personal bias. Bluesky gets the stamp of being a “tool”. It can be just as much of a mind-numbing fuckaround as Threads. Most replies in this thread are just starting from “Bluesky is where my people are” and trying to turn it into something self-righteous. Why are HN users so afraid of admitting that they’re dumb humans like everyone else? Christ.

Absolutely.

But I still think there is a difference with Bluesky and the other big social medias with full customization of how the feed(s) works, third party servers, custom labelers, etc. To me it seems plausible that they actually want to create more of an empowering tool that the users can control.

That will of course not stop users from using ”dumb” feeds. But the users doesn’t have the incitament of Facebook to always produce higher engagement and show more ads.

It is of course also troublesome that we do not know how Bluesky will act down the road to get their ROI.

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