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Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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livestream is quite different from streaming pre-processed video, so I'm not surprised by the scaling issues

i was mildly interested and managed to find a pirate livestream, it didn't have buffering issues lol

Well the pirate site was not live-streaming to 100 million users…

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What do you think were the dynamics of the engineering team working on this? I'd think this isn't too crazy to stress test. If you have 300 million users signed up then you're stress test should be 300 million simultaneous streams in HD for 4 hours. I just don't see how Netflix screws this up. Maybe it was a management incompetence thing? Manager says something like "We only need to support 20 million simultaneous st…

Has there ever been a 300m concurrent live stream? I thought Disney+ had the record at something like 60m.

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> their streaming service normally seems very solid Not trying to downplay their complexity, but last I heard Netflix is splitting the shows in small data chunks and just serves them as static files. Live streaming is a different beast

Static files have been pretty much the standard streaming protocols for both VOD and live for the last 15 years ago. Before, it was Adobe Flash (RTMP). With the way that they are designed, you can even use a regular CDN.

You can push these files to all the edges before you release the content which will protect your origin. Livestream all your edge servers are grabbing content from the origin unless you have another tier of regional servers to alleviate load.

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Our engineers are fucking morons If your "dumbest engineer" got a job and a hefty raise going to Netflix, it means he was very capable engineer who was playing the part of moron at this Fortune 500 company because he was reporting to a manager who was calling him and the entire team morons and he didn't feel the need to go above and beyond for that manager. Also, highly likely that it was the manager that was the mor…

> If your "dumbest engineer" got a job and a hefty raise going to Netflix, it means he was very capable engineer who was playing the part of moron It's also possible that there's very little correlation between capability, reputation and salary. Don't we all know someone who is overpaid? There are more than a few well known cases of particular employers who select for overpaid employees...

> well known cases of particular employers who select for overpaid employees

Not well-known enough, apparently. Where should I be applying?

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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On a few forum sites I'm on, people are just giving up. Looking forward to the post-mortem on how they weren't ready for this (with just a tiny bit of schadenfreude because they've interviewed and rejected me twice).

AB84 streamed it live from a box at the arena to ~5M viewers on Twitter. I was watching it on Netflix, I didn't have any problems, but I also put his live stream up for the hell of it. He didn't have any issues that I saw.

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Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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I wonder if there will be any long term reputational repercussions for Netflix because of this. Amongst SWEs, Netflix is known for hiring the best people and their streaming service normally seems very solid. Other streaming services have definitely caught up a bit and are much more reliable then in the early days, but my impression still has always been that Netflix is a step above the rest technically. This sure do…

If Netflix still interviews on hacker rank puzzles I think this should be a wake up call. Interviewing on irrelevant logic puzzles is no match for systems engineering.

I did a round of netflix interviews, didn't get an offer (but passed the technical coding rounds) they absolutely had the best interview process of any company I've interviewed at my entire career.

They do make you code but the questions were 1. Not on hacker rank or leetcode 2. Pratical coding questions that didn't require anything more than basic hashmaps/lists/loops/recursion if you want. Some string parsing, etc.

They were still hard, you had to code a fast, but no tricky algorithms required. It also felt very collaborative, it felt like you were driving pair programming. Highly recommended even though didn't get an offer!

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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I wonder if there will be any long term reputational repercussions for Netflix because of this. Amongst SWEs, Netflix is known for hiring the best people and their streaming service normally seems very solid. Other streaming services have definitely caught up a bit and are much more reliable then in the early days, but my impression still has always been that Netflix is a step above the rest technically. This sure do…

There's an upcoming NFL game on Netflix next month. They need to get their shit together.

Two games actually, both on Christmas Day. A day when most people are at home or the home of family or friends, and they are both pretty good late-season matchups (Chiefs-Steelers and Ravens-Texans) so I imagine viewership will be high.

If they botch the NFL games, it will surely hurt their reputation.

Re: Netflix buffering issues: Boxing fans complain about Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson

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I wonder if there will be any long term reputational repercussions for Netflix because of this. Amongst SWEs, Netflix is known for hiring the best people and their streaming service normally seems very solid. Other streaming services have definitely caught up a bit and are much more reliable then in the early days, but my impression still has always been that Netflix is a step above the rest technically. This sure do…

I think why I will remember about this fight is not the (small) streaming issue I encountered as much as the poor quality of the fight itself. For me that was the reputational loss. Netflix was touting “NFL is coming to Netflix”. This fight did not really make me want to watch that.

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Cable TV (or even OTA antenna in the right service area) is simply a superior live product compared to anything streaming. The Masters app is the only thing that comes close imo. Cable TV + DVR + high speed internet for torrenting is still an unmatched entertainment setup. Streaming landscape is a mess. It's too bad the cable companies abused their position and lost any market goodwill. Copper connection direct to ev…

The Masters app is truly incredible, I don't know if it gets enough praise.
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