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Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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The difference is that owning bitcoin doesn't give you partial control over the world's largest companies.

Because you think you have any power over microsoft, with one action ? Unless you have a majority of the company, you are worthless.

If a person or company wants to acquire controlling shares, they absolutely will need to buy up countless millions of shares to make that happen.

Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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I have it charted against the Malaysian Ringgit. It was 347k BTC/MYR high this year, compared to 326k today.

this should be the real headline. I am certain and beyond any doubt that I speak for all of us hackernews readers when I say that I have no frame of reference on the value of cryptocurrencies without comparing first with the Malaysian Ringgit

I mean a lot of people speculate that BTC is going up due to Trump's policies and promises, but an equally logical reason is that people expect the fall of USD. Currencies tend to fall after heated elections anywhere.

USD/EUR isn't necessarily a good reference either because they could be headed the same direction - an aggressive POTUS could be viewed as bad for NATO. Even gold, because that gold is going somewhere physical.

But there's not much other evidence that the USD is weakening after the election.

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Stablecoins are much better for payments, no one would use BTC for goods and services with the transaction fee and the confirmation time being so bad. https://www.coinbase.com/institutional/research-insights/res... TL;DR from the article : Stablecoins settled $10.8T worth of transactions in 2023 of which $2.3T were related to organic activities including payments and cross-border remittances, among others Today’s pay…

But at that point you are giving up on the alleged benefits of crypto (decentralization) and you might as well just pay cash.

Not quite. Stablecoins are still more decentralized than classic fiat and AFAIU it's easier to trade stablecoins to/from other coins/tokens.

Practical example, credit/debt card processors almost universally have banned/are banning many adult content sites, but those sites are starting to accept stablecoins.

While stablecoins can be tracked, transactions cannot be universally controlled, especially not by private entities (depends on the exact stablecoin of course).

Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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Note that it hit a new all-time high last night, but it's been in the ~$70ks since last March. The election results may have pushed it over the top, but it's been way up for a while. The people who predicted it would collapse appear to have been wrong, and the people who predicted it would come back appear to be right. My own position was that it's so volatile that it will always be a roller coaster, which is why I d…

Nitpick but it was mostly in the ~$60ks.

Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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Note that it hit a new all-time high last night, but it's been in the ~$70ks since last March. The election results may have pushed it over the top, but it's been way up for a while. The people who predicted it would collapse appear to have been wrong, and the people who predicted it would come back appear to be right. My own position was that it's so volatile that it will always be a roller coaster, which is why I d…

Your entire personality and idea of you is also a ponzy scheme. Does that make your life any less real ? Here you are pretending to be a somebody commenting so seriously on why Bitcoin is a ponzi scheme. Also go and short Bitcoin if you believe it is a ponzi scheme.

Parent said that Bitcoin is not a ponzi scheme: "more evidence against the Ponzi scheme narrative".

Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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I had a dream that Gensler wouldn't go quietly, and filed wire fraud/terrorism/laundering charges against Tether as his last stand.

Then I realized that crypto has bought a majority of the house, senate and the presidency so these scammers are here to stay and our only hope is that they run out of suckers and start scamming each other

Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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"Crypto is dead, that's why it's more valuable than ever"

Nominal price and value are not the same thing

For an asset with no intrinsic value, it is. Just like the nominal price of USD and its value are the same thing.

Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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Your entire personality and idea of you is also a ponzy scheme. Does that make your life any less real ? Here you are pretending to be a somebody commenting so seriously on why Bitcoin is a ponzi scheme. Also go and short Bitcoin if you believe it is a ponzi scheme.

Parent said that Bitcoin is not a ponzi scheme: "more evidence against the Ponzi scheme narrative".

Ahhh. I missed that. Thanks for correcting.

Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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Stablecoins are much better for payments, no one would use BTC for goods and services with the transaction fee and the confirmation time being so bad. https://www.coinbase.com/institutional/research-insights/res... TL;DR from the article : Stablecoins settled $10.8T worth of transactions in 2023 of which $2.3T were related to organic activities including payments and cross-border remittances, among others Today’s pay…

To purchase goods and services with Bitcoin such as Lightning where fees are negligible. It is indeed being used worldwide. E.g., you can purchase a wide array of things with Lightning at Bitrefill.com

oops, not sure what happened, meant to say "To purchase goods and services with Bitcoin, you would use a layer 2 protocol such as Lightning..."

Re: Bitcoin has made a new all-time high price

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So I suppose people must use it all the time to buy goods and services. Right?

It's like asking whether one would use ACH to buy coffee. Yes, nobody uses Bitcoin for transactions per se, but if it were to be used as a currency then one would transact Bitcoin over more efficient payment ledgers rather than the Bitcoin ledger. This analogy is similar to how Transferwise enables cross-border payments without actually sending the equivalent volume of money across borders. I know this doesn't address your main question, but either way it is worth thinking over when you think of "transacting with Bitcoin".
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