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Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by kristopolous »

kelipso wrote: post #299
kristopolous wrote: post #296

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I understand that mentality but it's clearly not how people behave. People who buy into bullshit do so as a core personality behavior. It's like how doomsday cult members double down when the predictions don't come to pass. I mean https://www.heavensgate.com/ is still around. Being discredited has the opposite effect as the intended. It instead concretizes the delusions. Exposing charlatans seems to only increase the…

You are thinking of a completely different situation. No one is thinking of some real estate guy who wants the dems or republicans to win as their cult leader when seeing those ads.

At least in the US, political partisanship I think is operationally pretty similar to a cult. It certainly doesn't have to exist like this but right now I think it is which is why I brought up the observation in the first place.

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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IAmGraydon wrote: post #297
Terr_ wrote: post #184

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> Trump's slump [...] towards the White House Somehow my mind supplies "slouch" instead, probably because of a poem [0]: > And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, > Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born? [0] https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43290/the-second-comi...

It’s fitting that you would quote Yeats, yet another guy who predicted an apocalypse that never came.

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Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by edm0nd »

Discordian93 wrote: post #237
Wowfunhappy wrote: post #186

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usps.com. amtrak.com. mta.info. These were just the first that came to mind. I think there are specific reasons behind each of these, but the fact is that I am used to interacting with government websites that end in .com, so it wouldn't surprise me if some county's court system also used a .com.

Those are state run businesses, not exactly government agencies.

USPS is a federal government agency tho

https://www.usa.gov/agencies/u-s-postal-service

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by Terr_ »

IAmGraydon wrote: post #297
Terr_ wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Trump's slump [...] towards the White House Somehow my mind supplies "slouch" instead, probably because of a poem [0]: > And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, > Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born? [0] https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/43290/the-second-comi...

It’s fitting that you would quote Yeats, yet another guy who predicted an apocalypse that never came.

It's a poem by a poet published right "the Great War", so I'm not sure what kind of predictive-standard you're trying to apply here.

More generally, predicting a disaster is sometimes an important step in ensuring it never occurs. Self-negating prophecies can have high utility.

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by edm0nd »

dgfitz wrote: post #63
akomtu wrote: post #39

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NFL is a microcosm of american politics. Two opponent teams, each has a trainer, a rich donor, some ideology and millions of fanatics who vote for their team no matter what. It may seem like the goal is to win the game on the stadium, but behind the scenes it's a well calculated auction of advertisements.

Your first sentence is spot on. Your analysis is dead wrong.

I disagree. The point is kinda spot on. Their end goal is to have their team perform the best possible in order to sell out tickets/stadiums/merch and have high ratings from viewership and syndication.

It's about as American as you can get.

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by JoshTriplett »

strix_varius wrote: post #246
jsheard wrote: post #27

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The politicians are having to bid against Temu this year and by god do they spend a lot on ads.

I guess it's a testament to my daily driver (Brave browser) that I had to Google "what is temu."

Genuinely curious: do you actually include "what is" in your searches, or was that paraphrasing?

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by kelipso »

kristopolous wrote: post #301
kelipso wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are thinking of a completely different situation. No one is thinking of some real estate guy who wants the dems or republicans to win as their cult leader when seeing those ads.

At least in the US, political partisanship I think is operationally pretty similar to a cult. It certainly doesn't have to exist like this but right now I think it is which is why I brought up the observation in the first place.

I feel like that's an impression caused by the current political media environment but it's not reality. Voter turnout is less than 50% of voting age population in the US and a significant portion of the voters are independents. Silent majority or whatever.

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by s1artibartfast »

morpheuskafka wrote: post #230

According to the site, ad targeting is allowed based on gender and age, but not race or religion, for example. All four of those categories were previously used to restrict voting and are now legally protected from voting discrimination. Why allow targeting some of them but not all? Either all should be disallowed (for the same reason that race, religion, etc are), or all should be allowed (on the reasoning that this…

I see the sentiment often from people who want a categorically clear legal system.

The answer is that these choices are often made taking into account real world situations. Not just theory. When different rights come into conflicts, the courts weigh them against each other, and take into account the magnitude of the real world impact.

Ban all for a logical simplicity sounds appealing, but the courts frequently find that this would lead to a greater Injustice then mixed decisions.

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by worstspotgain »

riehwvfbk wrote: post #254
worstspotgain wrote: post #207

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The most salient feature of Russian meddling is playing all sides, both ideologically and in levels of sophistication. The less-sophisticated efforts are basically misdirection and camouflage. They are intentionally disarming, akin to how their 'strongman' puppets make an effort to bumble and 'accidentally' feed the trolls. Covfefe bigly, if you will.

And you know they succeeded when they planted such paranoia in the citizens that they start seeing them everywhere.

Global Russian paranoia would actually be alright. We used to have that in the 80s. Certainly better than global Russian domination by way of stooges like Maduro, Orban, Wagner in Africa, and you-know-who in the US.

Re: All political ads running on Google in the US

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Post by kristopolous »

kelipso wrote: post #307
kristopolous wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least in the US, political partisanship I think is operationally pretty similar to a cult. It certainly doesn't have to exist like this but right now I think it is which is why I brought up the observation in the first place.

I feel like that's an impression caused by the current political media environment but it's not reality. Voter turnout is less than 50% of voting age population in the US and a significant portion of the voters are independents. Silent majority or whatever.

Those observations are somewhat in agreement. If politics became less culty there might be higher engagement.

Everyone I know who posts about a particular politic or election are totally batshit.

Really the only reaction I have is of concern. Like, are they getting therapy, does their family know...

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