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Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

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Re: Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

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Post by animal_spirits »

Newlaptop wrote: post #296
try_the_bass wrote: post #250

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And yet "free market forces" are often the reason why monopolies and oligopolies arise...? Monopolies are entirely consistent with free market economics. After all, if there's clearly a "best product" for a particular niche, it's entirely rational (free market actor) behavior for everyone to use the same product, leading to its monopoly in that market segment. I don't understand why people think this isn't/won't be/s…

> Monopolies are entirely consistent with free market economics Not in the least. Literally in the first semester, Economics 101 type class that any business/economics/etc student would take, it would be covered clearly that monopolies are violations of free markets. A free market isn't a euphemism for anarchy or "no rules", it's a specific economic term. The things it is free of include artificial price floors or ce…

And many times the sources of these monopolies come from special privileges given out by governmental authorities, such as the U.S. FDA

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Post by ChrisArchitect »

Fine with this. This is the world OpenAI created. And all the people that started searching with +Reddit tacked on weirdly like 5 years ago. Reddit's covering themselves from internal user-concern and their general exposure to AI training and Google was smart enough to get on that quickly. We'll see what Bing's take is and what changes if anything now that 404medias's outrage farming is at play. This isn't a recent change afterall, month ago?

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Post by ffgjgf1 »

eddd-ddde wrote: post #221
ekidd wrote: post #100

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I personally feel that this kind of "exclusive search only by Google deal" should result in an anti-trust case against Google. This is the kind of abuse of monopoly power that caused anti-trust laws to be passed in the 1890s.

if i create a vacuum cleaner and decide to only sell it at Walmart you can't get mad at me for not wanting to sell it at costco you can always buy a competitor's or make your own vacuum cleaner if you hate buying at Walmart maybe what you are really mad about is Reddit monopolising content

Unless you’re deemed to be an unfair monopoly and abuse your position to harm consumers interests.

You don’t even need >90% market share for that to be the case. e.g. Standard Oil only controlled 64% of the US market at most, it was still broken upz

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Post by hn_go_brrrrr »

MichaelZuo wrote: post #238
dev1ycan wrote: post #194

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Brave has their own search engine, yandex I only use for reverse image search, baidu's interface is really clean and feels like old school google... but I don't speak chinese so I can't use it. I hope that one day they get a western version

Brave doesn't have its own index of the full web, and it's even less useful than Yandex. And very likely buys some of it, according to what I've heard. So it falls into the last category.

Given the piles of spammy shit on Google these days, I'm wondering if "doesn't have its own index of the full web" is actually a competitive advantage.

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Post by altdataseller »

renlo wrote: post #219
jpalomaki wrote: post #203

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Quite sure they are also enforcing these with some technical measures to limit scraping.

As was LinkedIn, who was forced to rate stop limiting / IP-banning scrapers for public pages.

Many other websites enforce rate limiting or IP banning for public pages (using products like Cloudflare). Why is this not legal?

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Post by MichaelZuo »

em-bee wrote: post #264
MichaelZuo wrote: post #238

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Brave doesn't have its own index of the full web, and it's even less useful than Yandex. And very likely buys some of it, according to what I've heard. So it falls into the last category.

if that is true then they are lying on their site where they claim: " Brave Search operates from a fully independent search index " do you have any reference for your claim? i use brave search and find it very useful. very rarely there is something i can't find, and when i run into that other search engines are not much better.

Notice that it doesn't say "Brave Search solely operates from..." or "only operates from"?

Instead the wording leaves wiggle room for the possibility of using multiple.

Re: Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

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Post by PaulRobinson »

bdjsiqoocwk wrote: post #47
PaulRobinson wrote: post #31

This is great. It means I won't see Reddit content popping up all over search results in other engines. Can Medium do the same? And perhaps Quora?

What a weird thing to say. Reddit has for a long time been a place where real people hang out and have real conversations, unlike quora and medium.

I've got thousands of karma. Used to love it. No more.

Re: Google is the only search engine that works on Reddit now, thanks to AI deal

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Post by QVVRP4nYz »

ykonstant wrote: post #54

It's ironic, because Reddit is the only search engine that works on Google now thanks to shittening.

For years reddit build-in search was broken (or at least broken) and people were forced to use 3rd parties like google, so we came full circle.

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Post by QVVRP4nYz »

debacle wrote: post #13

Reddit has been ripe for disruption for years. It's just waiting on an inflection point and someone to take it behind the barn.

The killing of third party clients didn't have significant impact, I don't know what would they have to do to lose users, other than some kind of mandatory subscription fee.
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