Ladybird browser spreads its wings

Post by notfed » Sat, Jun 22, 2024, 1:41 AM UTC

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I'll take an alternative browser engine, even if it's written in C++. > I'm curious Is it really curiosity though? Because the answer is straightforward, the project started as a hobby, the developer picked whatever language they were proficient in. Andreas is open with the fact that he started Serenity OS and LadyBird as a rehab project. Put too much barrier in this setting (like learning a new language and all the…

>> I'm curious > Is it really curiosity though? I'm kind of annoyed at this whole train of comments ("I'm curious..."). In so many occasion I see something cool and the main comment track is "why hasn't this been writte in rust?" (or some other allegedly safe/better programming language). It's like seeing a beautiful painting being painted and arguing about the kind of paintbrush the painter has used. It's so sad.

Post by Gazoche » Sat, Jun 22, 2024, 4:08 AM UTC

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One commenter who worked on Firefox made a nice blog post in response, about what it takes to make a web browser: https://robert.ocallahan.org/2024/06/browser-engine.html

For a new project I wonder how much simpler (or secure) a browser could be made if you only allowed a subset of js and browser apis. I’d wildly guesstimate for 70% of use cases you wouldn’t even need 50% of stuff with some slight modifications. The web is just so bloated. Edit: might as well prune down the css a little too and maybe dump wasm, webgl and canvas

Post by AlOwain » Sat, Jun 22, 2024, 11:11 AM UTC

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Safari is 18% of global web traffic, 7x that of Firefox. (from a hasty scan of caniuse.com)

I challenge those numbers. Global stats aren't important, just the stats for your target audience. My sites see 13% Firefox, 35% Safari. But keep in mind, FF users sometimes spoof the Chrome user agent because some sites break otherwise. Further, I suspect FF users have tracking blockers at a higher rate, so they don't show up. https://indieweb.social/@robalex/112472853515037460

Post by immibis » Sat, Jun 22, 2024, 11:48 AM UTC

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Then nobody will ever use your browser. Simple as that.

I think people forget the early 2000s. Many sites only worked on IE but Firefox was the better browser. Firefox users had an extension that would open certain links in IE or open the current page in IE via the context menu. If a lightweight browser could be significantly faster and more secure, people would tolerate using two browsers again. Although Ladybird hasn't reached that bar. YouTube certainly could use a sma…

Post by [deleted] » Sat, Jun 22, 2024, 11:57 PM UTC

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> YT regularly breaks on Firefox Source? I've never had a single problem ever, and I don't know anyone else that has either.

Sure, here's a couple mentions from just the last ten days. Loads more if you search around. https://mapstodon.space/@hareldan/112619447620823614 https://techhub.social/@weston/112607264644039009 https://pdx.social/@crowdotblack/112604055589800602 https://social.bitwig.community/@gerotakke/11263106899010552...