Please enlighten me, how are the color "grades" different from just a bunch of filters? Granted they have sleek marketing. But why is this app supposedly worth $10 (or $20 when not on sale)? Don't all free camera apps support filters for hdr videos?
Kino: Pro Video Camera
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Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera
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Subscription fatigue is very real today, but to your point, as a business you can't provide eternal updates (work) for free. In the old days, you'd buy a new version of Mac or Windows or any software that you run on it (Office, Parallels, etc.) when you wanted the new features each year. I think Apple's App Store has a lot to do with why everything is now subscription-based. They used to offer developers a smaller Ap…
What do you mean used to take 15% commission, that has never stopped since the small business plan became available.
I mean that initially the 15% commission was only for subscription sales. Then more recently, Apple added the small business program which gave 15% commission for any sales (not only subscriptions), at least for smaller companies
Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera
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I also thought grading was just LUTs. Does kino let you do all of the things you mentioned directly in the app?
Might I ask why this is all you thought a grading session involved? Clearly, this is a touchy subject for me as I spent a few years as an assistant to a very talented colorist. The plethora of YouTube videos saying color correct using my amazing LUTs available when you join my Patreon blah blah nonsense is really sad. There are some truly amazing colorists, and then there are people that claim they are colorists when…
You are on a tech forum. People are going to talk about the technologies that make possible color grading.
Without LUTs, Look Up Tables, a computer would not be able to do color grading.
Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera
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> Bonus points if your sunglasses are polarized. You can rotate your sunglasses to "dial" in the effect similar to a circular polarizer. Surely that would only affect polarized light, like glare from reflections, no? Possibly that's all you're saying (I understand the general purpose of polarized lenses) but it sounded like you were suggesting you could make the whole scene darker -- and thus improve the motion blur…
> but it sounded like you were suggesting you could make the whole scene darker Did you read over this "Bonus points if your sunglasses are polarized."? I'm not talking about regular polarized lenses in your glasses. I specifically said the world sunglasses multiple times. The entire point of sunglasses is to make the whole scene darker. I really don't know how to describe this any more plainly.
Huh? I'm talking about being able to "dial in the effect." I read that as "dialing in the darkness" (as it relates to motion blur). That's what I'm talking about.
Obviously the sunglasses alone make the scene darker. You're the one who brought up dialing it in with polarized lenses.
Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera
#305Please enlighten me, how are the color "grades" different from just a bunch of filters? Granted they have sleek marketing. But why is this app supposedly worth $10 (or $20 when not on sale)? Don't all free camera apps support filters for hdr videos?
It's the difference between someone going mad with lipstick, and a theatre makeup department.
Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera
#306I wish titles on HN would clarify the platform for limited releases like this. This is iOS exclusive.
I'm not sure if most Android manufacturers support recording in raw which would be the closest analogue to this proprietary log format, so it's not like they could even make it if they wanted to.
Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/10/business/apple-siri-ai-ch... : > a tent pole project — the company’s special, internal label that it uses to organize employees around once-in-a-decade initiatives https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13305285
Pretty sure they lifted that from the features industry.
sure, I'm just saying it's not "standard marketing language"
Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera
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Unfortunately the freemium + subscription model usually works so much better money-wise that it's difficult to justify publishing a simple paid app with upfront cost.
I'm totally fine with subscription apps, but the price has to be reasonable. I'm not a video editor so I can't speak to that but here's one example: Most calorie counting apps want ~16AUD a month from me. That's what Disney+ costs and they spend billions of dollars making content. It's 3$ more than Spotify charges and they have almost every song ever made. It doesn't have to be free, or even a one-off cost, but it ha…
And price is often do not come up with this criteria
Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera
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I'm totally fine with subscription apps, but the price has to be reasonable. I'm not a video editor so I can't speak to that but here's one example: Most calorie counting apps want ~16AUD a month from me. That's what Disney+ costs and they spend billions of dollars making content. It's 3$ more than Spotify charges and they have almost every song ever made. It doesn't have to be free, or even a one-off cost, but it ha…
One of my most-used apps is $2/yr and I’m very happy about it
One of mine is for $10/yr and is not too much but still... And do not have another choice
Re: Kino: Pro Video Camera
#310"one simple principle: make good products and charge money for them." Thank you for the one-time purchase option. It's a win already on today's software world.
I just looked at two pomodoro apps on the app store, one had a one-time purchase fee, the other had a subscription only model. It's a freaking pomodoro app! I can't believe I have to pay for that in the first place (why doesn't the countdown app of Apple not have a widget =.=) but a subscription? People are greedy af.
Agree, it's frustrating to see simple apps like this requiring a subscription model.