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Ilya Sutskever to leave OpenAI

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Post by kadushka »

dj_mc_merlin wrote: post #199
kadushka wrote: post #172

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You have used an excellent term: AI intuition. This quality is extremely rare. Einstein probably had a similar kind of intuition in physics, and maybe that's why he was so successful. The ability to see what direction to pursue. Ilya has demonstrated it again and again, first with Alexnet (Hinton said Ilya was the person driving the project, believing in its success when no one else did, while Alex was the main imple…

Einstein famously disagreed with many facets of QM that we now believe to be true or at least closer to the truth than he was.

That might be because he didn't like what he discovered, or the results didn't make sense to him. But it was the intuition that got him there in the first place.

But you have a good point. Ilya got us so much closer to AGI, but he might not like the results now.

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Post by barbazoo »

VirusNewbie wrote: post #294
renewiltord wrote: post #255

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Yeah, that’s Google’s reputation. Probably the most famous retirement home in the Bay.

but it's not true. Most people work a lot at G. Maybe some teams in search coast or something. But for every slacker I know 8 people who stay late a fair bit.

“Working a lot” doesn’t necessitate “staying late”

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Post by rakejake »

delf wrote: post #70

Nvidia should snatch him.

I have a feeling Apple will make a play for him.

Apple is considered to be seriously lagging behind in ML. Just his name alone is probably enough for the time being - They can give him his own lab to do whatever he wants. Ilya will attract enough talent, at least some of whom will be willing to take up responsibility over commercial stuff in the coming years.

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Post by refulgentis »

sailfast wrote: post #277
ru552 wrote: post #136

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More like they iced him for the last 6 months to ensure he wasn’t taking their lead to a competitor. He probably hasn’t touched anything in that time.

I have to say I'm a bit surprised "gardening leave" is not more of a norm in tech like it is in investment banking or finance.

Big Tech wasn't what I expected, it seems there's almost a forced perspective that individuals don't make a difference (they do)

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Post by refulgentis »

VirusNewbie wrote: post #294
renewiltord wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, that’s Google’s reputation. Probably the most famous retirement home in the Bay.

but it's not true. Most people work a lot at G. Maybe some teams in search coast or something. But for every slacker I know 8 people who stay late a fair bit.

Nah man come on lol. (source: worked at Google 2016-2023)

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Post by seabrookmx »

entangledqubit wrote: post #231
brokencode wrote: post #186

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I feel like they’re not going to want to go into direct competition with their most valuable customers.

Haven't most of the most valuable customers already started rolling their own Nvidia hardware replacements?

Hedging maybe. But there's no real competition currently.

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Post by FabHK »

robbomacrae wrote: post #285
FinchNova12 wrote: post #269

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What? How is this not saying "Well, it might be in the best interests of humanity for OpenAI to do [hypothetical thing that seems pretty bad that OpenAI has never suggested to do], and because they may consider doing said thing, we shouldn't trust them"?

I think OP is just pointing out that "acting in the best interests of humanity" is fairly ambiguous and leaves enough room for interpretation and spin to cover any number of sins.

Like the effective altruists bought themselves a castle with SBF's money - in the best interests of humanity, obviously.
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