I genuinely haven’t experienced any of this frustration. My windows usually remember where they were when I plug into my dock with two 4K monitors.
Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks
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Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks
#302Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would disagree about Apple having a "rich docking ecosystem". Apple might be the only major manufacturer to not provide their own docking solution that work extremely well, beyond trying to do it with a display. As soon as the "pro" moniker is used, 2, if not 3 monitors are completely normal. Extra wide monitors do not cut it. 3 24" 2k monitors at 2560x1440 can be far preferable to a single ultrawie that barely pro…
It's also pretty bad if you have a personal computer and a work computer. It's mystifying that they sell $1000+ monitors with a single input. Like a terrible no name $100 POS these days will typically have two, if not 3 inputs.
Once upon a time you could daisy chain Displayport monitors.
The Matrox TripleHead2Go seems to remain relevant so many years after it's introduction, I used to run 3 monitors on my HP dock with one. Dynamite.
Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks
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If you minimize and then restore a window, it saves that position on the screen. There are some programs that will misbehave no matter what but after that, you can close and reopen the program and it should open in the same screen, with the same size and position.
> If you minimize and then restore a window, it saves that position on the screen. There are some programs that will misbehave no matter what but after that, you can close and reopen the program and it should open in the same screen, with the same size and position. Is this a mac-ism? A standard behavior? An expectation? Something a program would do automatically? As for the behavior I agree - so long as the screen i…
It is standard behavior on Windows.
The issues you run into come with plugging and unplugging screens. If you leave them plugged in they work like that. I know it's not helpful for laptops that get moved around.
Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks
#304I think multiple display support has gone backwards on the Mac, in a way that’s representative of the platform and rather dispiriting. I remember 20 years ago a colleague pointing out that Apple had put a lot of work in to allow windows to seamlessly cross different monitors, even if the PPI and colour depth were different. At some point between then and now, they ripped that out: windows are now only ever shown on o…
> windows are now only ever shown on one display Untrue :D System Preferences > Desktop & Dock > Mission Control > Displays have separate Spaces > Off So why is it not allowing windows to overlap two displays when that setting is on? Because when it's on a) you can swap spaces independently on each screen and b) you can move individual spaces across displays. If you had overlapping windows, swapping Spaces or rearran…
I want to toggle this off, but if I do, making an app full-screen on one display makes the other displays turn black. This is too annoying for me.
This is related to the "full-screen apps pretend they are their own space" Mac OS behavior. I wish the toggle turned that off too.
Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks
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> General OS slowness and instability and clunky design not so much. I can't tell whether you're talking about Windows or Mac here
Windows are not bad if you have control over them. But in corp env, you don't and the force updates, AV, FW, extra AV scans and other monitoring shit so even with 32 GB of RAM, fast SSD and latest i7 PC would start to act like it's Win98. That's why I switch to Mac M2, zero corporate shit and total control so it works great.
This is where 'not corporate endorsed but tolerated' wsl2 is awesome, everything inside the vm is not scanned or slowed down by all the security crap.
Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks
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If you want to type the window, something like alfred / raycast / spotlight search invoked by keyboard can help.
My gnome workflow was: * I have many windows open * I press a key (super) to get the misson-control like overview. I type in "Firefox" * It will run the app if it's not already running, or switch to it. If there's something that can emulate that, and... Not be a hacky work around.. then I'm all ears
That’s how it works on macOS. Command-space (or whatever way you want to trigger Spotlight) then type Firefox and it will bring it to the front, or launch it if it’s not running. No workarounds or third-party software needed.
Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks
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My WindowServer is sitting at 30% CPU and 15% GPU on an M1 MacBook Pro and I have no idea why. I reboot the Mac more often than I rebooted my dogshit HP enterprise laptop. MacOS is just a bad OS. It's good if you only ever use the MacBook as a laptop, but the moment you hook it up to a useful setup, it becomes a drag.
Did you ever consider there might be something wrong with your machine or some piece of software you’ve installed? Or do you think the rest of the world that has heaped praise on the Apple Silicon Macs has missed something you’ve seen?
Most of the Apple Silicon praise is coming from delusional fanboys. It's only good for one thing and it is power efficiency.
For the majority of people that are really into computers, that means jack shit and it is basically just some nice thing you may want to have if you really have to use a laptop from time to time.
Most Apple laptops (especially the expensive ones) are used by executives and somewhat rich people who want to show off. I was an Apple technician in the past so I know very well how marketing really doesn't match the typical user, then you get irrelevant "praise".
As someone who actually cared about Apple products, I wish they didn't switch their whole computer lineup to Apple Silicon. They could have kept making standard computers at the same time, but it would have been hard justifying such outrageous markup on ram and storage.
Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks
#308> The Mac operating system still Just. Fucking. Sucks. at remembering where windows were, when relaunching apps. I agree and it's confounding. For me it's even worse: when plugging back into my home office after some work on the road, it doesn't remember the window positions associated with that setup, and I have to reorganize my dozens of windows away from the laptop screen again. I've solved this through a 3rd-part…
I would disagree about Apple having a "rich docking ecosystem". Apple might be the only major manufacturer to not provide their own docking solution that work extremely well, beyond trying to do it with a display. As soon as the "pro" moniker is used, 2, if not 3 monitors are completely normal. Extra wide monitors do not cut it. 3 24" 2k monitors at 2560x1440 can be far preferable to a single ultrawie that barely pro…
Nowadays, Pro at Apple mainly means "extra expensive", often doesn't have much to do with professional use even though sometimes it is actually at the intersection.
Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks
#309The desktop-switching animation is too slow on new Macbook pros with "promotion" (high refresh rate) enabled. The animation speed is tied to the display refresh rate, so disabling promotion (setting refresh rate to 60hz) fixes the issue. It's particular annoying because windows aren't interactable during the animation, so you have to wait for the ease-out to fully complete before you can click on things in the new de…
I've had that complaints for four years when I had to use macos to develop for an iPad. As a Windows(or Plasma) user its window manager is just absurdly behind the times with its exclusive full screen and lack of snapping or having to edit application manifests so you can put the simulator in a tiled setup. It really didn't give me a good impression on why people like macos for development apart from having a shell w…
To be fair, in the early days of Mac OS X the shell used to be much more up to date and hacking things around was much easier because they didn't yet put all those "security" features all other the place.
The folder layout of the system was also much cleaner and logical but now it feels like windows where data may be hidden in many layers of randomly named subfolders.
As for the hardware, the early intel MacBook Pros were extremely good for repairability and longevity. They lost some of it with the switch to "unibody" but it still was rather decent with most things accessible and replaceable (battery, ram, storage).
I think it is largely understated how much things went downhill after Tim Cook took over because people are blinded by financial success. Steve Jobs had learned some hard lessons before coming back to Apple and applied them with a lot of success, it seems all of this went out of the window and now it's all about making shiny hardware that has to be replaced on schedule preferably.
They say power corrupt but money has seems to have that characteristic, but then again, money is some form of power.
Re: Multiple Displays on a Mac Sucks
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Yes - I noticed that the OP mentions they reboot a lot. If you just reboot for OS updates, and use sleep the rest of the time, most (all?) of these problems go away. Same for closing apps - with modern OS's keeping an app open is likely not an issue as it'll not consume resources when not in focus, unless it's running a heap of background tasks.
OP has PTSD from wintel computers i guess. People move to macs and don't expect sleep to work, expect to need a mouse for their laptops etc. I could contradict the entire article with my personal experiences if I took the time. Been using multiple monitor Macs (and Linux before them) for ages. > When the Dock is on the side, it only appears on the display that is farthest to that side. Having to move the mouse across…
Jokes on you, my old janky custom PC sleeps much better than my iMac ever did.
I have a feeling that people who say that compare very expensive Macs to bottom of the barrel Windows machine where software/driver support is barely done, precisely because it costs so little it is expected that people buying them won't care.
For the most part it's true, people who can't be bothered to spend decent money on a computer don't care much about the finer things: the start it, do whatever task is needed and then shut it down; sometimes multiple days go by before the computer gets any use...
If you spend MacBook Pro money on a Windows laptop the experience will be mostly fine, even though it has its idiosyncrasies (just like macOS).