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Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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The amount of conspiracie flying around in this thread are shocking. Someone committed, as it seems, suicide after years, if not decades, of emotional work related stress. They came forward, publicly, with their concerns. So publicly, that everyone knows who they are, from co-workers over friends and family to the media. That alone adds another ton of stress and pressure. And on top of all of that, they went through…

I bet you believe Epstein killed himself too.

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Quit

I mean, you kinda glossed over 1/3 of the issue... how do you quit “the entire world”? I think the person asking for advice wanted a real answer for “how can one deal with this difficulty”, especially because in the work situation, a new job won’t necessarily make any difference in terms of the internal struggles.

You don't need to quit entire world, just the part that is toxic to you and poisons your life. You owe it to yourself and your family much much more than those sweet dollars that will kill ya (and nobody will see them anyway) or make you an old sour toxic fart.

If you are obsessed about quality, don't work at QA at big MBA-run corporations, just don't, thats a place for career-chasing folks. Find a place that appreciates and values your, or change your job altogether.

I know it sounds harsh but just look at this topic where it can and very often leads to (as long as the story checks, and nobody here actually knows).

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I think thats part of the conspiracy: you don't directly murder one guy, you show him skeletons you know about him and tell him you will put them out in the public. The rest solves itself.

This is what the FBI tried to do to MLK.

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You vastly overestimate how hard it is to have someone killed. It doesn't take nation-state resources to kill a random civilian. It's a few tens of thousands of dollars. Even a few million is basically nothing to a corporation like this.

It’s not the money that’s the issue, it’s the risk of getting caught with multiple life sentences. They got money to spare but it’s useless when you serve 50 behind bars.

It was irrational not to mention illegal for eBay to harass some obscure blogger with death threats, yet it happened.

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737 Max whistleblowers should take notice though.

Whistleblowers should be in no way influenced by current events. Information wants to be free and that will never change.

Information may want to be free, but most people also want to live.

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The military and intelligence apparatus does not care You don't need the whole apparatus, just someone who has been trained by it and is morally flexible. Well, you don't even need that, but obviously people with professional experience tend to do a better job. We do not have evidence yet of this being a murder-for-hire or similar, but you're insisting on the impossibility of such when in reality it's not all that un…

An S&P 500 corporation hiring a hitman to murder a witness is beyond "unusual", it has literally never happened in contemporary America. You can't even give me an example of it happening because it hasn't.

> An S&P 500 corporation hiring a hitman to murder a witness is beyond "unusual"

It doesn't have to be the corporation itself, it could be an ambitious sociopathic underling of a security officer who was himself known and hired for his edgy/dirty attitude and "fix anything" reputation. This is essentially what happened in the eBay case; death threats in the mail aren't that far removed from actual murder, and got people sent to prison (proving the 'legal deterrent' to agents of corporations doing irrational and illegal things isn't perfectly reliable) You keep setting up strawmen to make the thing sound implausible.

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Has someone numbers about suicides in cars with guns? This looks fishy to me. But perhaps I've just watched too many mafia films.

Suicide in a car is a “popular” way of doing this because there is less cleaning afterwards. Crime scene cleaning of a room costs like $20k. Bodily fluids go everywhere.

That doesn't make sense, what if car cost 50k (or more), do you think anybody would ever want to drive in it? Family traumatized by just looking at it, heck any similar car, ever ?

Low cost would be ie in your backyard, jump from the bridge (with added 3s thrill), OD on opiates or some poison you don't feel or similar. Or go fight russians if you really stand up for western values, that may actually cure the need if you make it through.

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Hacker News is extremely strongly manipulated. What users see as popularity order is actually the order manipulated to the moderators' liking. https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented#behavi... I believe this is a good technical article for HN concerning safety culture of engineers, but moderators didn't think so.

It's not a technical article. It's a lurid media topic* about a suspicious-looking alleged suicide with zero information for a substantive discussion, and tons of fuel for sinister speculation. That's not what HN is supposed to be for. However, we can give this one a pass because the ongoing Boeing saga is of interest and there's clearly a community appetite to discuss this development. Edit: even though the thread i…

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Re: Boeing whistleblower found dead in US

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some people kill others because they run out of nutella, some kill others to rob $10 from their pockets, some kill them for fun, but its difficult to believe a giant corporation with A LOT to hide would kill a whistleblower?

Those are examples of irrational people doing things without regard to consequences. That’s not particularly relevant to what conditions would likely need to exist for a giant corporation to decide to do something like that. It would not be difficult to believe if this person had unique knowledge that likely would not come to light otherwise. Then I could see a rational (and terrible) person deciding that the benefit…

Irrational people exist in corporate structures too. The eBay death threat plot was completely irrational.

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Just to chime in on the 'alternate explanations', I think it's important for anyone with conspiracy ideas to remember that the case he was being questioned in was not an investigation into Boeings liability as an airplane manufacturer, but rather a civil suit he made against Boeing for defamation of character.

And companys would never bring the full instruments to force on a single person. PIs etc, psycho-terror and so on and so forth..

The Ebay stalking case comes up to mind
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