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Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by dajtxx »

fjfkjfdljkfd wrote: post #223
arsome wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think YouTube is the counter argument to this - long form content from passionate people has taken off pretty good there. Perhaps it's just me, but it seriously makes the rest of social media look like an absolute trashfire by comparison.

Youtube is pushing Tik Tok style "shorts" pretty hard. If you ever accidently click on one, the UI makes it very hard to find your way back, and easy just to sit and watch a bunch of 15-second clips. Even the long-form content is a minefield. The line between educational, informative long-form content (Clickspring, Tech Ingredients, Ox Tools, Matthias Wendel, Alan Millyard, etc) and "lifestyle entertainment" (Matt Ar…

I’m finding ave harder to watch as time goes by. He’s got some conspiracy stuff going on and while he’s clearly intelligent & educated I wonder if he all that much smarter than most of us or if he’s just bluffing sometimes. He’d be fun to be friends with and hang out with for sure but I think a lot of people consider him some sort of know everything genius. He seems to play up to his audience more and more.

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Post by satao »

majani wrote: post #294

Bold-ish prediction: by 2040 it will only be individual influencers producing news. Most newsroom outlets are zombies at this point, being kept alive by something outside of their ad revenue

that's why some kind of news should be publicly funded. otherwise only people with financial means will be able to produce news.

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Post by ejb999 »

satao wrote: post #302
majani wrote: post #294

Bold-ish prediction: by 2040 it will only be individual influencers producing news. Most newsroom outlets are zombies at this point, being kept alive by something outside of their ad revenue

that's why some kind of news should be publicly funded. otherwise only people with financial means will be able to produce news.

publicly funded meaning that they will only report news that is favorable to whoever happens to be in power at the time and controls the purse strings?

no thanks. The USA does not need state sponsored media.

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Post by junon »

Scoundreller wrote: post #32
nextaccountic wrote: post #21

It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway There should be a way to donate a website to the Internet Archive so that they run an online archive on it, basically keeping the site frozen forever (rather than relying on the Wayback Machine which has worse UX)

> It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway I 100% don't get it when websites with lots of content and good SEO just delete everything. Fatwallet (fuck you Rakuten). Yahoo Answers (hey, I didn't say good content). Even on my own Drupal blogs that I didn't want to maintain/update anymore, I did a giant curl job, recursively regex'd out the login/comment submission fields and dumped them on…

Holy shit I totally forgot yahoo answers was a thing. That was indeed a shame, even though most of it was complete garbage.

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Post by offices »

jp57 wrote: post #63

People still don't realize how many things from the last fifteen years were LIRPs. Low interest rate phenomena doomed the moment investors can get a halfway-decent yield from fixed-income investments.

Meanwhile US housing is politically a zero-risk alternative with costs guaranteed by government subsidy for 30 years. Why innovate when you can own capital?

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

lodovic wrote: post #296
deelowe wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure there's liability, copyright, and trademark concerns as well.

If they would want to monetise their content in the future, they must keep it private before it's gobbled up by search engines and AI and becomes public domain.

hmm, yeah all sites in the future that find themselves unprofitable take content offline to maintain license to AI potential.

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Post by rcarmo »

I fail to understand how digital content distribution has stopped being efficient. It would probably be more accurate to say "This is not the goldmine we need to feed all our shareholders and the mountain of bureaucracy and inefficiency that we have turned into as a media outlet".

Also, the loss of content that should have been trivial to archive is nearly criminal. Almost like book burning.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Post by jstummbillig »

Scoundreller wrote: post #32
nextaccountic wrote: post #21

It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway There should be a way to donate a website to the Internet Archive so that they run an online archive on it, basically keeping the site frozen forever (rather than relying on the Wayback Machine which has worse UX)

> It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway I 100% don't get it when websites with lots of content and good SEO just delete everything. Fatwallet (fuck you Rakuten). Yahoo Answers (hey, I didn't say good content). Even on my own Drupal blogs that I didn't want to maintain/update anymore, I did a giant curl job, recursively regex'd out the login/comment submission fields and dumped them on…

It takes continuous effort/money to keep metaphorical company lights on. There is things you need to file periodically, legalities you need to comply with, also when they change in the future, just to exist.

So if the website shutdown coincides with the shutdown of a company or a division within the company, that might be why. And since a website will usually not shut down if it's turning a considerable profit to begin with, just deleting everything can often look like the best option.

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Post by berkes »

anshumankmr wrote: post #253
MuffinFlavored wrote: post #28

They have 18,000,000 subscribers on YouTube... how can they not have enough money to host a website and pay some people to create content?... RIP Epicly Later'd?

18,000,000 subs,but how many of those are willing to pay for the news they receive?

Even if that's a mere 0.1% willing to pay a dollar per year, that's still enough to pay a few freelancers
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