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Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice
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Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice
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I use Rectangle and still have complaints about Mac window management. Rectangle itself is great, but it's discernably a patch over a bad window management paradigm, and the awkwardness underneath pretty regularly shows through. As just one example—the dock is atrocious for a browser-centric workflow. I only ever have 2 "apps" open at a time, but I have 6 Firefox windows and 2 IDE windows, and remembering where I put…
I think this must be a matter of preference. I absolutely hate Windows’ window management. I waste endless time fussing around getting windows where I want them to be. This happens every time I unplug my laptop from external monitors, or plug it in to external monitors (even if they’re the exact same model and configuration as other monitors I’ve previously used). It’s aggravating and distracts me from what I’m tryin…
At work I have a Windows laptop that I plug into a dock with two additional monitors. Windows correctly returns windows to the screen it was previously using if I unplug and then plug the laptop back into the dock. Is that not the desired behaviour?
Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice
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*bad window management for you Believe it or not, some people actually do like to have free moving windows and such. Also you seem to be ignorant of a lot of features of macOS, like cmd-tab, focus an app, cmd-up arrow to show the windows of the app, and so forth. Or swipe down from the trackpad on a Dock icon to show the windows of the app. Anyway, YMMV as always. Personally I find the window management atrocious not…
> like cmd-tab, focus an app, cmd-up arrow to show the windows of the app, and so forth It's not that I'm ignorant of these, it's that they're clunky for a browser centric workflow. The abstraction of an "app" is just plain wrong for the way that I and many others use computers these days, because one app (the browser) is home to most of the tasks I'm working on and already has its own second-level navigation in the…
Interesringly the default DE in MOST Linux distros is GNOME which does not do what you describe, instead it follows the MacOS approach of alt-tab going through apps and not windows. I agree it is frustrating though! Have recently moved back to Windows and their alt-tab going through windows was one of the things I liked. However Microsoft has sadly enhanced it to include groups of Windows if you have stacked them side by side. One step forward and one step backward. As is the norm for modern UX.
Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice
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WSL2, power toys and hands down the best window management of any OS, I hate working on my MBP just due to the difficulty of managing different windows and aligning them on the same desktop.
>hands down the best window management of any OS Huh? You can't even snap windows to screen edges.
Can you clarify what you mean excatly. What you describe is possible in Windows out of the box. I think since Windows 7 or so. Or maybe your description is of a different feature I'm not familiar with.
Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice
#305Windows just keeps getting weirder. There's this regrettable dichotomy between (1) a rock solid OS core with great features like Hyper-V, PowerShell and exceptional back-compat, and (2) a crap, sluggish, inconsistent UI slapped on top, laden with ads, "Rewards" Points and tracking.
> laden with ads, "Rewards" Points Serious question: Where do you see ads? I’ve used Windows 11 since it came out, and have never experienced a single advertisement.
They push lots of MS when setting up Windows. My most recent install had them try to bribe me to sign up for a gaming service with a free month. That was only one example I saw during the install process alone. Doesn't include the shit I find actually using Windows itself. My first few days using Windows was spent working out how to uninstall or disable so much crap.
Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice
#306Samsung and Microsoft both do this shit. It's unfortunate that they are the only real alternative to Apple for general consumers.
Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice
#307MacOS allows you to "hard click" (long click) a text selection in any application, which pops up a bubble that lets you do a web search for that phrase. But the search only launches Safari. I wasted at least a couple hours scouring boards and kext files, screwing with automation macros, trying to find a way to make this potentially helpful shortcut not open Safari, but instead open Firefox. Eventually I just gave up.…
That feature causes freezes for seconds thanks to high ping times from India. I also dreaded Ubuntu menu for the same reason.
Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice
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That's why the knowing caveat. E.g. either you HAVE to advertise to your own users (so if your browser is already the default, you still have to show the notification to suggest to change), or you are treated as if you know, and then you can't advertise based on the 10x rule. To put it differently you can't hide ad for Chrome users and then pretend you did not know others used FF.
How would the regulator know when you break the rules though? I may very well be misunderstanding the idea here, but it still seems like it would come down to (for example) Microsoft being required to limit how they send user notifications/recommendations based on Microsoft's own internal analytics for user metrics. For the Chrome example, the regulator would have to know how Google's proprietary ad targeting algorit…
Users will report it. 3rd parties could collect statistics.
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As for stats: at least in software you can definitely get independent sources of statistics.
That might be possible, I'd be really curious how. For something like data on what apps a user has installed, what hardware they're on, etc those data really would be first-party analytics. Some things can be collected through third party sources, though that depends on those third party tools being used, not being blocked by a user, and on API access for those third party tools to collect the necessary data. I would…
You are overthinking. In the Internet age it is pretty easy to learn that Google never shows "Use Chrome" banner to users of Chrome.
Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice
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If that would be true, the websites would only support Safari and Chrome. But it's not true and websites work just fine on Firefox - so stop peddling this crap to defend lockout of choice.
There are plenty of websites that have degraded performance or functionality in Safari and Firefox. The most obvious being many of Google's products.
I use Firefox extensively with Google products and I don't know what you're actually talking about? Degraded how?