This looks awesome. Christian, you mention comments as a possible future feature -- I think the idea of a livestream off in the corner with comments as a separate spatial box might be nice. I don't like to leave streams on while I'm doing other things, but lots of younger folk I know do, and part of the stream consumption experience is the comments.
Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro
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Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro
#302Talented developer for sure, but has a knack for developing software that piggy backs of silicon valley giants that can turn off access at a moments notice.
That’s more of a statement of the monopolization of hardware access the App Store gives than it is him “piggy backing”. It’s not like you have a real choice without Apple being forced to allow software downloads via a web browser globally.
Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro
#303Earlier quoted context omitted.
Walled gardens keep attention-span-harvesting profits on the inside.
> Walled gardens keep attention-span-harvesting profits on the inside. A few different counters: 1. Steam is on an "open" platform and charges the same 30% for the marketplace access value as the rest of the industry, whether open or appliance/console, including Apple. So it is memetic but incorrect to argue that Apple being "walled garden" is causing Apple to take more from devs than other places devs can market the…
Steam is different because there is a great sense of ownership on one's steam game library - to the point that one has family control PINs and passwords, and can share or hide or private games, wishlists and gifts to and fro.
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Walled gardens (paywalls) around 1-time consumed content is bs, mostly.
"Information wants to be free - but we plan to monitize freedom through paywalls" is the content business model of Ye Olde Gaard Media... where the paper you were reading todays* news on had significant cost to deliver that story to your eyeballs - such as a medium empire to own the substrate for the narrative presented to you (Hurst's lumber paper empire and the demise of hemp as a paper product)
And the insane amount of control that supply chain enabled - thus the entitled archetype seen in the DNA of all media companies.
so - walled gardens, are an old model. Especially for sites that are digital pheonix of their prior paper media empire...
This is why I think that any linking to New York Time on HN should be banned - so annoying, HN isnt US-centric, exclusively and it shouldnt have so many expectations that its users want to pay NYT for anything.
(paywalls promote title-clickbate-commenting, because you want to engage in the topic without paying for the full context of the article clickbaiting you...
Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro
#304Talented developer for sure, but has a knack for developing software that piggy backs of silicon valley giants that can turn off access at a moments notice.
Here's an almost trivial bit of "permissionless innovation" thanks to Silicon Valley giants:
https://mastodon.social/@UP8/111049822586450100
30 years ago somebody who wanted to develop a "new object you can use to distribute music" had to spend $100 million on some project like
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Compact_Cassette
today it is very simple because almost everyone has a player in their pocket that connects the card to software which runs in the cloud. It wouldn't be technically difficult at all for me to host the music file in S3, R2 or Azure storage and the storage and network costs are insignificant so far as I expect these cards to be distributed. If I did that I could get in trouble over copyright, so a link to YouTube is a safe and easy solution w/ the disadvantage that people in many geographies can't view licensed music videos.
Fortunately that QR code is a redirect and I can send it to another service. I demoed the cards with quite a few people and found that they usually felt it was a letdown to go to YouTube (maybe because they go to YouTube all the time and there is nothing special about it) but that there was more satisfaction with a link to SongWhip which might send them to YouTUbe in the end but gives them a feeling of agency at the expense of another click.
Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro
#305Brought to you by the man who created Apollo for Reddit.
For reference, please see the #2 top post on Reddit in the last year. This is the impact that a single developer can have. If that's not inspirational, then I don't know what is. https://old.reddit.com/top/?sort=top&t=year
All I see is a picture of a dick-shaped 9/11 memorial..
Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro
#306Talented developer for sure, but has a knack for developing software that piggy backs of silicon valley giants that can turn off access at a moments notice.
I don't understand what reasonable alternative there could be. Develop your own YouTube?
I think the idea was that they would develop apps that don't require the giants. Which sure, could be your own YouTube, but more often it's a smaller in scope project because you're a solo dev. If i understand them correctly, they're just acknowledging the risk.
Ie work in a way that doesn't require the giants shadow, as the giant may move unexpectedly. The shade can be quite lucrative though, if you're nimble.
Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro
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Not as smooth as Apple.
I don’t know if that’s still true. The Music app is still sluggish, Notes has poor UX, almost every built-in app has a better third-party replacement. It has been downhill since iOS 7.
Has it ever been the case that the built-in apps are the best in their category? Should it be the case? Apple's strategy seems to be to make a simple offering that appeals to most people, and to leave the advanced/special/power features to third-party developers. I think that's a pretty healthy arrangement, though I bet many devs would prefer Apple not offer defaults in some categories at all.
Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro
#308Just wondering, how does the logistics of pricing it at a one time purchase work? Isn’t there a $99/year Apple developer program?
He's probably hoping to get more than 20 purchases.
Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro
#309Earlier quoted context omitted.
Walled gardens keep attention-span-harvesting profits on the inside.
> Walled gardens keep attention-span-harvesting profits on the inside. A few different counters: 1. Steam is on an "open" platform and charges the same 30% for the marketplace access value as the rest of the industry, whether open or appliance/console, including Apple. So it is memetic but incorrect to argue that Apple being "walled garden" is causing Apple to take more from devs than other places devs can market the…
> 1. Steam is on an "open" platform and charges the same 30% for the marketplace access value as the rest of the industry, whether open or appliance/console, including Apple. So it is memetic but incorrect to argue that Apple being "walled garden" is causing Apple to take more from devs than other places devs can market their wares.
Steam has put a lot of effort into being the best place to buy games, and if a developer doesn't like it they're allowed to sell to customers on the same devices through a different store.
If there were no threat of competition, would Steam be as good as it is?
If the App Store did have competition, would it be better?
Re: Juno – A YouTube Client for Vision Pro
#310Earlier quoted context omitted.
No ads is not sustainable. It's not like the alternative is youtube remaining ad free. The alternative is youtube shutting down.
You are very silly to think that youtube would shut down just because you don't pay your three monthly doubloons.
As someone with a YouTube channel, from looking at my metrics it's pretty clear that YouTube is being held afloat by a) the fact that non-technical users can't easily block YouTube ads on mobile devices, and b) YouTube Premium.
A single user depriving YouTube of their revenue is inconsequential sure, but when hundreds of millions of people do it (like with blocking ads on desktop) it obviously runs the risk of making the entire company unviable. Hosting videos for free is a great way to lose a lot of money.