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How to learn chess as an adult (2021)

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Re: How to learn chess as an adult (2021)

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post #55

Great article. I got into chess recently, and I can only recommend the "Learn chess with Dr. Wolf" app. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/learn-chess-with-dr-wolf/id135... It's got a beautiful UI, and it's a conversational chess tutor that goes over the basics, tactics, advanced strategy and with whom you can play and will point out mistakes and blunders for later review. Perhaps it is too basic for anybody that has a fe…

Wow, thanks for this recommendation!

Re: How to learn chess as an adult (2021)

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post #38

"Only about 10% of players ever gain more than 100 points, and only about 1% of players gain more than 200 rating points given years." This seems like a wild claim. On chess.com I've gone from 500 to ~1050 in a handful of months without any real study, just some light YouTube watching. 500->800 felt like all it took was learning a few openings and not blundering pieces. 800-1050 felt like it came mostly from getting…

If you follow the link to the data analysis [1] you’ll see that the argument is based on higher rated players. Low rated players have much higher variance in their rating and can improve by quite a lot, just by learning to stop blundering. That’s basically the situation you’re in. Getting to 2000 rating is going to be quite a mountain to climb for you, unless you’re very young. [1] https://github.com/jcw024/lichess_d…

"unless you’re very young."

You mean, "unless you have unlimited time."

Re: How to learn chess as an adult (2021)

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post #143

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> I don't understand how people learn from slamming blitz/bullet games. The time constraints are too rushed to really think about what makes a move good or bad. I assumed it was a young person's thing, but the author said he plays these quick formats too. I'm 47 and started playing around 5 years ago. I only play Blitz and Bullet because I find it fun. In the first two years I went from around 1000 on lichess to arou…

If you analyse the blitz games after playing them, that can bridge some of the gap.

I would disagree with that on few levels.

Blitz chess is already what a lot of people consider a variant. In Blitz format there are strategies and tricks that are outright blunders in longer time controls.

The biggest improvement by far for a casual player (at stage where you have some higher chess concepts understood) is to memorise.

Memorise and understand principles of openings lines (lines you want to play as white - few, more in depth, and most common lines you see being played - more, less in depth as black)

Memorise mating patters, there are certain setups that occur on board, knowing them can help playing them when they happen, or better angling to set them up yourself.

This was what made me drop chess as a teen. High level chess is a looot about memorisation. And that was when magic of chess disappeared for me :/

As a counterpoint to what you said, going back through your own game might not show you why and where you made a root cause mistake. If you dont have a background knowledge you will not know what to look for. And its rather a surface glance that you will 'get and forget' as soon as you start next game.

Better approach would be to study the positions you played after you are done playing for the day, or coming back to them on some other day.

Re: How to learn chess as an adult (2021)

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Thats what my chess teacher used to put me in their local chess club tournaments, in order to get a FIDE Elo, i would have need to go (on that time 1995~1999) to official tournaments and that was expensive for a rural area... M not saying m on the level of masters but definitely not a newbie... either way i don't need proof just go to chesscom, open a new free account and start grinding... you are gonna see fast the…

Sorry man, that just means you aren't as good as you think you are. I have free accounts on both and don't have any issues winning matches. You're probably nowhere near where you were if you haven't played in 25 years... I'm anywhere between 1000 and 1800 depending on time constraints and I have friends pushing 2000. All free accounts. Don't know what to tell ya.

You are not getting the point... it is not about the ratings or win ratio, is about how fast you can climb the ladder to 1200 elo (like OP suggested) from 100 at chesscom/liches, 9 months is unrealistic without paying the "pay-to-win" fee, 2 years is more realistic timeframe to get that elo.

If you are think m wrong go start a free account and prove me wrong, you have less than 9 months to go up to 1500 elo.

Re: How to learn chess as an adult (2021)

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post #55

Great article. I got into chess recently, and I can only recommend the "Learn chess with Dr. Wolf" app. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/learn-chess-with-dr-wolf/id135... It's got a beautiful UI, and it's a conversational chess tutor that goes over the basics, tactics, advanced strategy and with whom you can play and will point out mistakes and blunders for later review. Perhaps it is too basic for anybody that has a fe…

I downloaded "Learn Chess with Dr Wolf" yesterday from this comment, and I am completely hooked. What an incredibly well-designed and thoughtful learning tool. This has renewed my interest in Chess!

Re: How to learn chess as an adult (2021)

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Sorry man, that just means you aren't as good as you think you are. I have free accounts on both and don't have any issues winning matches. You're probably nowhere near where you were if you haven't played in 25 years... I'm anywhere between 1000 and 1800 depending on time constraints and I have friends pushing 2000. All free accounts. Don't know what to tell ya.

You are not getting the point... it is not about the ratings or win ratio, is about how fast you can climb the ladder to 1200 elo (like OP suggested) from 100 at chesscom/liches, 9 months is unrealistic without paying the "pay-to-win" fee, 2 years is more realistic timeframe to get that elo. If you are think m wrong go start a free account and prove me wrong, you have less than 9 months to go up to 1500 elo.

Well, yeah if you only play three games a day, what do you expect?

I play probably 20 a day.

Look up chess speed runs on YouTube.

Re: How to learn chess as an adult (2021)

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Really fascinating article. Any similar advice for an adult xiangqi leaner? I recently decided to delve into East Asian forms of chess and chose xiangqi to begin. I have some limited written Chinese, if needed for the best sites and texts.

Re: How to learn chess as an adult (2021)

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post #81

I don't like losing, I want to always win. That's why I don't play. I've been thinking recently that I should play anyway so that I could grow out of this condition. Any tips for that?

I thought I was the only one that ever felt that way. It was many years ago when ICC was the only place to play online, and I was exactly the same. I could play bots, but not people. Losing to a bot was one thing, but another person? No way! I ended up writing about the online chess experience for some class I was taking at the time. I think that what's finally did it for me. And since that time, I basically accept losing, failure, as a part of the process of learning and growing in all areas of life. Some years later I played in OTB tournaments. These would be weekend events where a game could last 4 hours, and you'd play two or even three in a day. It could be pretty grueling. And of course, you have to accept your losses. It's an amazing experience to be an adult and lose to a child or teenager. But yes that's happened to me more than once. I'll also add that it's amazing to win an OTB tournament. Once I played in a large weekend tournament, six games over three days. I was in the under 2000 section (my rating was in the 1600s), and for some reason, I simple could not lose. Even in games where I would have a losing position, I would still manager to win, or in one case draw. I was bullet proof, and it was such a wonderful feeling -- felt like I was walking ten feet off the ground. The only tournament where I've ever won a cash prize, too. So, anyway, go for it. Don't let your fear of losing stop you from trying in any area of life.
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