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Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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Re: Who makes the most reliable new cars?

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Post by paxys »

whatever1 wrote: post #260
paxys wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are right, research involving millions of data points gathered from 330K vehicles over the course of a year is completely wrong because you saw a couple of broken BMWs on the road on your way to work.

I mean you can tell me that the dice is fair but if I get 100 times in a row 6, I will start having some doubt.

People doing the research are the ones rolling the dice millions of times. The above commenter rolled it twice, got 6 both times, and concluded that it was flawed.

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Post by renewiltord »

mkii wrote: post #290
renewiltord wrote: post #287

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Haha, that's a funny meme. But the main picture sort of is different, no? In Tokyo, you'd wander through the streets and see all sorts of interesting things in that melange of billboards: model train stores, little book stores, an indoor hydroponics farm, a teppanyaki place. I've got nothing against truck stop off-ramps looking like they do (they provide great utility on road trips) but it's qualitatively different a…

It's kind of the same to me. There's videos on YouTube of Japanese tourist or exchange students in America, gawking and having fun over the most mundane American things.

Huh, I suppose we're different. I wasn't born American, and both the truck stop stuff and the Japanese city are wondrous to me. But they're obviously different experiences because of how many novel things I can experience in a short amount of time.

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Post by darknavi »

gumballindie wrote: post #293

I am surprised tesla is that high up in the list. It feels like a bucket on wheels.

I have a Model 3 (2018) and a Model Y (2022) and both are largely without issues.

I think people meme hard on Tesla to make them sound like the most unreliable car out there for some reason, when in reality you occasionally have fit and finish issues and a normal amount of unreliability.

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Post by paxys »

blinding-streak wrote: post #286

What the hell happened to Mercedes? 29th out of 30 on the list. Truly awful. I've never driven one (let alone owned one) but by the marketing (and price) you'd think it was the greatest vehicle on earth.

Nothing happened. They have always had a terrible reputation for quality, and the results show it. People buy it for the brand name, and that's about it.

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Post by puzzledobserver »

Is ranking by brand necessarily the most useful ranking?

How does the Toyota Prius (with 19 potential trouble areas, per the article) compare with a non-hybrid (say a Mazda 3)?

The first graph indicates that Toyotas are, on the whole, more reliable than Mazdas, and the second graph indicates that hybrid drivetrains (despite having more trouble points) are marginally more reliable than purely gas powered vehicles.

Taken together, this suggests that a recent Prius would be more reliable than a recent Mazda 3, but it would be nice to have a model-wise reliability score, no?

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Post by helij »

nerdponx wrote: post #267
webel0 wrote: post #232

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Yes, I keep on thinking that a premium market will develop for Toyota and Honda cars from roughly ~2006-2010. Those cars were the height of internal combustion technology without all of the electronics.

I think that market has already developed. Look at prices for used cars from that time period.

They will outlaw them soon enough and good riddance. Whenever I drive behind one of these older cars they usually stink.
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