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We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
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Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#302With Sam coming back as CEO, hasn't OpenAI board proven that it has lost its function? Regardless of who is in the board, they won't be able to exercise one of the most fundamental of their rights, firing the CEO, because Sam has proven that he is unfireable. Now, Sam can do however he pleases, whether it is lying, not reporting, etc. To be clear, I don't claim that Sam did, or will, lie, or misbehave.
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Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#303I guess the main question is who else will be on the board and to what degree will this new board be committed to the Open AI charter vs being Sam/MSFT allies. I think having Sam return as CEO is a good outcome for OpenAI but hopefully he and Greg stay off the board. It's important that the board be relatively independent and able to fire the CEO if he attempts to deviate from the mission. I was a bit alarmed by the…
> It's important that the board be relatively independent and able to fire the CEO if he attempts to deviate from the mission. They did fire him, and it didn't work. Sam effectively became "too big to fire." I'm sure it will be framed as a compromise, but how can this be anything but a collapse of the board's power over the commercial OpenAI arm? The threat of firing was the enforcement mechanism, and its been spent.
they lost trust in him because apparently part of the funding he secured was directly tied to his position at openAI. kind of a big red flag. The microsoft 10 billion investment allegedly had a clause that Sam Altman had to stay or it would be renegotiated
allegedly again, the board wanted Sam to stop doing this, and now he was trying to do the same thing with some saudi investors, or actually already did it behind their back, i dont know
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#304Still think this was CIA operation to get OpenAI in hands of US government and big tech. Former Secretary, SalesForce CEO who was board chair of Twitter when infiltrated with FBI [1] and the fall-guy for the coup is the new board? Not one person from the actual company - not even Greg who did nothing wrong??? [1] - https://twitter.com/NameRedacted247/status/16340211499976867... The two think-tank women who made all t…
I wish they could make GPT4 a little cheaper after all this.
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#305I really don't care who the CEO/CTO/CFO of any company is. Why is this whole thing blowing up that much on ycombinator?
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#306At the end of the day, we still don't know what exactly happened and probably, never will. However, it seems clear there was a rift between Rapid Commercialization (Team Sam) and Upholding the Original Principles (Team Helen/Ilya). I think the tensions were brewing for quite a while, as it's evident from an article written even before GPT-3 [1]. > Over time, it has allowed a fierce competitiveness and mounting pressu…
> there was a rift between Rapid Commercialization (Team Sam) and Upholding the Original Principles
Seams very unlikely, board could communicate that. Instead they invented some BS reasons, which nobody took as a truth. It looks like more personal and power grab. The staff voted for monetization, people en mass don't care much about high principals. Also nobody wants to work under inadequate leadership. Looks like Ilya lost his bet, or Sam is going to keep him around?
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#307What a farce
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#308With Sam coming back as CEO, hasn't OpenAI board proven that it has lost its function? Regardless of who is in the board, they won't be able to exercise one of the most fundamental of their rights, firing the CEO, because Sam has proven that he is unfireable. Now, Sam can do however he pleases, whether it is lying, not reporting, etc. To be clear, I don't claim that Sam did, or will, lie, or misbehave.
No that hasn't at all been the case. The board acted like the most incompetent group of individuals who've even handed any responsibility. If they went through due process, notified their employees and investors, and put out a statement of why they're firing the CEO instead of doing it over a 15 min Google meet and then going completely silent, none of this outrage would have taken place.
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#309> We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam Altman to return to OpenAI as CEO with a new initial board of Bret Taylor (Chair), Larry Summers, and Adam D'Angelo. > We are collaborating to figure out the details. Thank you so much for your patience through this. 1- So what was the point of this whole drama, and why couldn't you have settled like this adults? 2- Now what happens to Microsoft's role in all of thi…
Satya comes out great, making the absolute best of a given shitty situation, with a high stake of 10 B USD. Microsoft is showing to investors that it is going to be an AI company, one way or the other. Microsoft still has access to everything OpenAI does. Microsoft has its friend, Sam, at the helm of OpenAI and with a more tighter grip on the company than ever. Its still a win for Microsoft.
Satya comes out as evil imho, and I wonder how much orchestration there was going on behind the scenes.
Microsoft is showing that it is still able to capture important scale ups and 'embrace' them, whilst also acting as if they have the moral high ground, but in reality are doing research with a high governance errors and potential legal problems away from their premises. and THAT is why stakeholders like him.
Re: We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam to return to OpenAI as CEO
#310> We have reached an agreement in principle for Sam Altman to return to OpenAI as CEO with a new initial board of Bret Taylor (Chair), Larry Summers, and Adam D'Angelo. > We are collaborating to figure out the details. Thank you so much for your patience through this. 1- So what was the point of this whole drama, and why couldn't you have settled like this adults? 2- Now what happens to Microsoft's role in all of thi…
Larry Summers? like the Larry Summers?
yeah, the guy has a knack for being in/invited to places.