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Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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Do whatever you want but don't break the API or I will go homeless

Just create an OpenAPI endpoint on azure. Pretty sure not run by OpenAI itself.

Azure OpenAI is always a bit behind, e.g. they don't have GPT-4 turbo yet

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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Ilya posted this on Twitter: "I deeply regret my participation in the board's actions. I never intended to harm OpenAI. I love everything we've built together and I will do everything I can to reunite the company." https://twitter.com/ilyasut/status/1726590052392956028

Trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube. I seriously doubt this will work out for him. He has to be the smartest stupid person that the world has seen.

That seems rather harsh. We know he’s not stupid, and you’re clearly being emotional. I’d venture he probably made the dumbest possible move a smart person could make while also in a very emotional state. The lessons for all to learn on the table is making big decisions while in an emotional state do not often work out well.

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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At this point, I think it’s absolutely clear no one has any idea what happened. Every speculation, no matter how sophisticated, has been wrong. It’s time to take a breath, step back, and wait until someone from OpenAI says something substantial.

I agree. I'm already sick of reading through political hit pieces, exaggeration, biased speculations and unfounded bold claims. This all just turned into a kind of TV sports, where you pick a side and fight.

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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I think it was Mark Zuckerberg that described (pre-Elon) Twitter as a clown car that fell into a gold mine. Reminds me a bit of the Open AI board. Most of them I'd never heard of either.

You know, this makes early Google's moves around its IPO look like genius in retrospect. In that case, brilliant but inexperienced founders majorly lucked out with the thing created... but were also smart enough to bring in Eric Schmidt and others with deeper tech industry business experience for "adult supervision" exactly in order to deal with this kind of thing. And they gave tutelage to L&S to help them establish…

>but were also smart enough to bring in Eric Schmidt and others with deeper tech >industry business experience for "adult supervision"

>(Now, of course that original Google vision is just laughable as Sundar and Ruth >have completely eviscerated what was left of it, but whatever)

Those two things happening one after another is not coincidence.

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

he even posted a apology: https://x.com/ilyasut/status/1726590052392956028?s=20 what the actual fuck =O

They did not expect Microsoft to take everything and walk away, and did not realize how little pull they actually had. If you made a comment recently about de jure vs de facto power, step forward and collect your prize.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38331457

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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At this point, I think it’s absolutely clear no one has any idea what happened. Every speculation, no matter how sophisticated, has been wrong. It’s time to take a breath, step back, and wait until someone from OpenAI says something substantial.

Likely Ilya and Adam swayed Helen and Tasha. Booted Sam out. Greg voluntarily resigned.

Ilya (at the urging of Satya and his colleagues including Mira) wanted to reinstate Sam, but the deal fell through with the Board outvoting Sustkever 3 to 1. With Mira deflecting, Adam got his mate Emmett to steady the ship but things went nuclear.

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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Well I give up. I think everyone is a "loser" in the current situation. With Ilya signing this I have literally no clue what to believe anymore. I was willing to give the board the benefit of the doubt since I figured non-profit > profit in terms of standing on principal but this timeline is so screwy I'm done.

Ilya votes for and stands behind decision to remove Altman, Altman goes to MS, other employees want him back or want to join him at MS and Ilya is one of them, just madness.

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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At this point, I think it’s absolutely clear no one has any idea what happened. Every speculation, no matter how sophisticated, has been wrong. It’s time to take a breath, step back, and wait until someone from OpenAI says something substantial.

Absolutely agreed This is the point where I've realized I just have to wait until history is written, rather than trying to follow this in real time. The situation is too convoluted, and too many people are playing the media to try to advance their version of the narrative. When there is enough distance from the situation for a proper historical retrospective to be written, I look forward to getting a better view of…

That's not how history works. What you read are the tellings of the people and those aren't all facts but how they perceived the situation in a retrospective. Read the biographies of different people telling the same event and you will notice that they are quite never the same, leaving the unfavourable bits usually out.

Re: OpenAI staff threaten to quit unless board resigns

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I think it was Mark Zuckerberg that described (pre-Elon) Twitter as a clown car that fell into a gold mine. Reminds me a bit of the Open AI board. Most of them I'd never heard of either.

That's a confused heuristic. It could just as easily mean they keep their heads down and do good work for the kind of people whose attention actually matters for their future employment prospects.
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