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Greg Brockman quits OpenAI

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Post by anvuong »

jumploops wrote: post #244

Sam and Ilya have recently made public statements about AGI that appear to highlight a fundamental disagreement between them. Sam claims LLMs aren't sufficient for AGI (rightfully so). Ilya claims the transformer architecture, with some modification for efficiency, is actually sufficient for AGI. Obviously transformers are the core component of LLMs today, and the devil is in the details (a future model may resemble…

That is just disagreement in technological aspects, which any well-functioning company should always have a healthy amount of within its leadership. The press release literally said he was fired because he was lying. I haven't seen anything like that from a board of a big company for a very long time.

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Post by computerex »

astrange wrote: post #219
kats wrote: post #137

Meta should do a ChatGPT clone just like they did a Twitter clone.

They sort of did one before ChatGPT (and after InstructGPT) with Galactica, but didn't have the nerve to keep it up.

Galactica was focused on academic use cases and got a lot of hate due to hallucinations.

Re: Greg Brockman quits OpenAI

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Post by jay_kyburz »

AmericanOP wrote: post #282
johnwheeler wrote: post #84

Edit: I called it https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1725682088639119857 nothing to do with dishonesty. That’s just the official reason. ———- I haven’t heard anyone commenting about this, but the two main figures here-consider: This MUST come down to a disagreement between Altman and Sutskever. Also interesting that Sutskever tweeted a month and a half ago https://twitter.com/ilyasut/status/1707752576077176907 Th…

So I should cancel any plans to build on the GPT platform? Because it doesn't align with the values of Ilya and Helen? Open AI- we need clarity on your new direction.

Do you really want to build a business on a platform with 100% lock in.

It not like to can just move to another AI company if you don't like their terms.

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Post by strikelaserclaw »

soderfoo wrote: post #232
lexandstuff wrote: post #62

What an unbelievable turn of events! To the outside observer, OpenAI is one of the most successful, well-oiled machines, shipping nearly weekly and doing an unbelievably good job marketing itself. Clearly, there's a lot of turmoil going on behind the scenes.

And Sam was the face of AI to the general public, which makes these moves all the more perplexing.

he wasn't a very good face, most of my friends don't recognize who sam is, they know what chatgpt is though.

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Post by Sebb767 »

dclowd9901 wrote: post #287
mark_l_watson wrote: post #273

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great point. It was rude to drop a bombshell during trading hours. That said, the chunk of value Microsoft dropped today may be made back tomorrow, but maybe not: if OpenAI is going to slow down and concentrate on safe/aligned AI then that is not quite as good for Microsoft.

It only dropped 2% and it’s already half back in after hours. I don’t think the market thinks it’s Altman who’s the golden boy here.

It's still a completely unnecessary disturbance of the market. You also don't want to bite the hand that feeds you. This would be taking a personal disagreement to Musk-levels of market impact.

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Post by matwood »

cowl wrote: post #221
johnwheeler wrote: post #84

Edit: I called it https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1725682088639119857 nothing to do with dishonesty. That’s just the official reason. ———- I haven’t heard anyone commenting about this, but the two main figures here-consider: This MUST come down to a disagreement between Altman and Sutskever. Also interesting that Sutskever tweeted a month and a half ago https://twitter.com/ilyasut/status/1707752576077176907 Th…

Doesn't justify the hostile language and the urgent last minute timing. (partners were notified just minutes before press release). They didn't wait even 30 min for the market to close causing MSFT to drop billions in that time. A mere direction disagrement would have been handled with "Sam is retiring after 3 months to spend more time with his Family, We thank him for all his work". And surely would be taken months…

> last minute timing

Only feels last minute to those outside. I've seen some of these go down in smaller companies and it's a lot like bankruptcy - slowly, then all at once.

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Post by wslh »

johnwheeler wrote: post #84

Edit: I called it https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1725682088639119857 nothing to do with dishonesty. That’s just the official reason. ———- I haven’t heard anyone commenting about this, but the two main figures here-consider: This MUST come down to a disagreement between Altman and Sutskever. Also interesting that Sutskever tweeted a month and a half ago https://twitter.com/ilyasut/status/1707752576077176907 Th…

And there is: https://twitter.com/anothercohen/status/1725631445941563671
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