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You might be interested in Orleans: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/orleans/overview
Orleans is definitely interesting, but I have never looked into it much because it's my understanding that it is a cloud-only solution, in that it requires some Orleans or Azure service. Is that correct?
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I was asking about Orleans integration. They are working on it ( https://twitter.com/reubenbond/status/1724463381686686075 ). I think it's a matter of time for Dapr stuff to be integrated. It is after all the first preview. edit: here's more info about Dapr and Aspire https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/aspire/reference/as...
Orleans seems to have stagnated greatly past year or two. Someone raised this issue over a year ago(that only like one person was working on it and seemingly part time) and they swore it was still going to be getting resources and continuing R&D. Fast forward to now and it's only bug and compatibility fixes. A shame cause reminders v2 would have been an amazing addition.
I think workflows (durable async/await) are more useful than Reminders v2 alone (in some sense, workflows are Reminders v2), but an enhanced reminders system is likely part of that, as is the new log-structured storage system. The log structured storage issue discusses this: https://github.com/dotnet/orleans/issues/7691. We've been experimenting with a programming model for workflows and intend to share that more broadly soon. Currently, we are planning for .NET 9, so feedback is welcome (best provided via GitHub rather than here). Aspire will make it easier to build and deploy Orleans apps, which is one of the harder points for people getting started with Orleans currently.
Super stoked for a few things. List expressions I'm overly excited about. Can't wait to use and of course dictionary expressions will be amazing in the future. EF Core complex types. Also it'll be fantastic when these can be used to model composite keys. The using enhancements. Hopefully I don't end up overusing tuples. If Orleans had secretly been working on reminders v2 it'd be early Christmas.
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I would say Blazor is really very very good now. One of the most awesome things about it is that your skill with it transfers almost directly between a desktop app, web API, or web site. All the code is almost the same.
Blazor is just history repeating itself. This is Web Forms with a shiny coat of paint and the "magic" this time is WebAssembly and a different proprietary web interface that is undebuggable. I've heard this "Microsoft has finally created a completely cross platform UI framework" like twenty times...
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Orleans seems to have stagnated greatly past year or two. Someone raised this issue over a year ago(that only like one person was working on it and seemingly part time) and they swore it was still going to be getting resources and continuing R&D. Fast forward to now and it's only bug and compatibility fixes. A shame cause reminders v2 would have been an amazing addition.
There were a bunch of new features added to Orleans in the past year, including Live Grain Migration, IAsyncEnumerable support, Cosmos DB & Redis providers. I think workflows (durable async/await) are more useful than Reminders v2 alone (in some sense, workflows are Reminders v2), but an enhanced reminders system is likely part of that, as is the new log-structured storage system. The log structured storage issue dis…
I was being a bit hyperbolic with "only bug fixes" but.. A bit.
Haven't seen anything around workflows but will check it out and the structured storage stuff. Interested in running my own workflow engine on Orleans and reminders v2 looked like the perfect Quartz.Net replacement for my needs.
Thanks for replying; hoping you would. Someone asked about the future of Orleans 8 on GH a couple weeks back but nobody from the project chimed in last I looked. Know how it is with PMs and BAs and other work though.
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Every even release is LTS (including .NET 8 today). New projects should not use Framework at all. It's really not confusing at all.
Yes, but that parent has a point: that new LTS is 3 years of support. Which is not that "long term". We're on .NET 6 now, because it's LTS. But as of today, it has 1 more year of support (1) .NET Framework 4.8 as an OS component, is actually supported for longer - no end date given (2). Note that .NET Framework 4.6.2 is supported until Jan 12, 2027 - that's longer than .NET 6 and 7, and maybe 8 1) https://learn.micro…
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It depends... .NET 6 was already capable of most things you are looking for, but there are some limitations. I personally think it is a really versatile language and if you know it, you can get the most things done somehow. I wrote a little cross platform C# command line tool called `tone`[1] for tagging audio files and it compiles via github actions for windows(x64), linux(x64,arm64,arm6,arm7), macOS (x64, arm64) as…
I would target the main desktop, and maybe raspberry and android but it's very far from my horizon and not a criteria. I was thinking that flutter is a dart library/framework ? How is it compatible with C# ?
I think Flutter has a lot of advantages over the C# UI libraries and is worth learning when planning a Cross Platform UI or App.
It's possible with C#, but you have to work around a lot of shenannigans depending on the use case.
Command line apps are totally ok with C#...
I'd love to hear from some .NET fanatics, how would you convince someone to use that ecosystem over another?
Very strong tooling. Compiler APIs, debuggers, very strong IDEs (Visual Studio with free extensions and Rider)
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Any tips or tutorials for a PHP dev who wants to pick .NET up after a couple decades of not using it? I looked at the project templates in Visual Studio 2022 just for web apps and the options made my head spin. My wife has worked QA for a number of .NET teams and it just seems like something I should at least keep my thumb on, but I've had nothing but frustration with it so far, even just trying to figure out what te…
PeachPie may be worth a look. It’s a php to .net compiler. https://www.peachpie.io/