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Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by qaq »

bigironcto wrote: post #241

I am CTO of a large global data center provider posting with throwaway account. As a technologist, I really appreciate what they have done. Impressive work, high quality, however I don't understand who this is for. The meaningful market for Data Center hardware is pretty well defined in two clusters. People that build/make custom gear (such as Hyperscalers) and people that buys HP/Cisco/IBM/Dell... (blades or hyper-c…

They literally had CTOs of F100 companies that want to buy this gear as part of VCs pitch. Because as you can imagine your question was the first question VC's asked.

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Post by mtlynch »

YorickPeterse wrote: post #285
loeg wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, it's an immediate stumbling block to hiring anyone currently making more than that, such as senior engineers in the US.

That is only a problem if you insist on hiring people from such expensive areas. Given Oxide hires remotely, I doubt this is an actual problem for them.

According to their LinkedIn[0], 28 of their 52 listed employees live in SF Bay Area, so their salaries wouldn't be that high for that area.

[0] https://www.linkedin.com/company/oxidecomputer/people/

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Post by ranger207 »

behnamoh wrote: post #286
TrueDuality wrote: post #85

I'd like to add that their open source code is also EXTREMELY high quality. If you're an embedded developer go take a look at Hubris and Humility. I ended up using those to GREAT effect for this custom one-off aerospace device and it was a fantastic experience to integrate with. Definitely a change from what I was used to that took a bit of getting used to.

On a side note, I really liked their website. The ASCII animations are interesting -- wish there was a video game that had those.

Cogmind (https://www.gridsagegames.com/cogmind/) has those sorts of animations

Re: The Cloud Computer

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Post by fbdjdjfb »

eddyg wrote: post #57

If you don’t listen to their “On the Metal” podcast, you’re missing out. So many great stories from legends in the industry. Just start with the first episode. https://oxide.computer/podcasts/on-the-metal

Added to my podcast player - Thanks!

In a similar vein, Embedded.fm is a great podcast for embedded SW. Though I bet Oxide's take on embedded rust is a lot different than the hosts of that show!

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Post by cmiles74 »

nickik wrote: post #103
NKosmatos wrote: post #17

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I'll second that, they should make it clear what they're selling and what they have to offer. Every company should have this in their main/landing page... If I can't understand what you're selling/offering in 30sec, then I'm not interested :-) If you take some time and read around their site you'll see that they're offering a ready to run (turnkey) server. They have everything packed together, they've integrated ever…

Literally on the main page there is a picture of a big computer. And then it says: Oxide Cloud Computer No Cables. No Assembly. Just Cloud. Contact Sales How much easier can they make it? They clearly want to sell computers.

It does look pretty cool.

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Post by repelsteeltje »

steve1977 wrote: post #289
repelsteeltje wrote: post #243

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Maybe you were. :-) And maybe this is not for you or me (I haven't contacted their sales, yet) it's not for everyone. Personally, I have always been annoyed that the BIOS is clunky and every change requires a reboot, taking several minutes. As computers got faster over the years, this has gotten worse, not better. At the core of cloud economics is elasticity: don't pay for a service that you don't use. Wouldn't it be…

> Wouldn't it be great to power down an idle server, knowing that it can be switched on seconds before you actually need it? considering you would still need to boot the VMs then, once the Oxide system is up, I’m not sure if this is such a big win. And at a certain scale you’d probably have something like multiple systems and VMware vMotion or alternatives anyway. So if the ESXi host (for example) takes a while to bo…

> considering you would still need to boot the VMs then, once the Oxide system is up, I’m not sure if this is such a big win.

To be honoust, I'm using containers most of the time these days but even the full blown windows VMs I'm orchestrating boot in less than 20s, assuming the hypervisor is operational. I think that's about on par with public cloud, no?

> [...] vMotion [...] ESXi.

Is VMware still a thing? Started with virsh, kvm/qemu a decade ago and never looked back.

> And, economics of elasticity - you’d still have to buy the Oxide server, even if it’s idle.

That's a big part of the equation indeed. This is where hyperscalers have an advantage that Oxide at some point in the future might enjoy as well. Interesting to see how much of that they will be willing to share with their customers...

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Post by layer8 »

flumpcakes wrote: post #278

I think a lot of commenters here have little experience with hyper-converged infrastructure if they don't see this is different. This looks, by far, the simplest way to run workloads outside of the big cloud providers (AWS, Azure, GCP). It seems they only support up to virtual machines but this is still miles ahead of VMWare, Nutanix, or CISCO ACI to my eyes. This honestly looks simple enough that a developer/DevOps…

It may be a limited market. You need to be large enough for a private cloud to make sense, but above a certain size it also should be a no-brainer to have a competent ops team making you less dependent on a singular infrastructure provider.

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Post by keepamovin »

a_imho wrote: post #280
dewey wrote: post #79

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This really is one of these things where every employee in a cheap cost of living area will say "Exactly, man!" and people in an expensive area will see it differently because it might cap them lower than what they could get. I always find that a very naive point of view, of course I would want to earn a US tech salary while living somewhere in the country side, who wouldn't. But I'm also aware that this is not how t…

Assuming interchangeable human resources there are basically 2 options, either the company is extracting more value from everyone than the salaries they pay, in that case paying fairly would eat into the company's bottom line. Poor CXOs would not turn extra profits by keeping less fortunate employees on low salaries but just the regular one. Or the highest paid employees are not pulling their weight and their salarie…

Can you explain more about your view that it should not be the norm to provide equal compensation for equal work?

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Post by throw-DO-178C »

TrueDuality wrote: post #85

I'd like to add that their open source code is also EXTREMELY high quality. If you're an embedded developer go take a look at Hubris and Humility. I ended up using those to GREAT effect for this custom one-off aerospace device and it was a fantastic experience to integrate with. Definitely a change from what I was used to that took a bit of getting used to.

> ... code is also EXTREMELY high quality. If you're an embedded developer go take a look at Hubris and Humility.

So, Humility is like MC/DC?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modified_condition/decision_co...

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