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Psychedelic Mushrooms Hit the Market in Oregon

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Re: Psychedelic Mushrooms Hit the Market in Oregon

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Post by explaininjs »

dang wrote: post #294
explaininjs wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Get behind me, hellweaver! For it is written: Some people are like seed along the path, where the word is sown. As soon as they hear it, Satan comes and takes away the word that was sown in them. (For those following along, this is a cute and fun example of Scripture being used to rebuke attempts to shake the foundation. The forces that be typically aren't so overt.)

Please don't take HN threads further into religious flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Could you explain what about my comment you consider to be a "flamewar"? As far as I was aware we were simply acting out the Parable of the Sower as an example of my prior narrative.

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Post by explaininjs »

dang wrote: post #291
explaininjs wrote: post #30

Been there, done that. Have the postcard. I got to experience the even more fun version where you feel like your death is imminent, you watch your surroundings stop rendering chunk by chunk, and your long term friend is telling you it is indeed all a simulation that everyone but me knew about, and I really was dying (more accurately: going "offline" for an upgrade, and my "spirit" wouldn't be persisted across version…

We detached this subthread, which went offtopic and flameward, from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37995044 . > As for recovery, Jesus saved me. He can save your friend too, if she lets Him. It's best not to proselytize on HN. It's ok to talk about your own experience of course, but when it starts to move into standard religious tropes, that's already a kind of flamebait and discussion quality plummets, and boy…

Would you have preferred I left out that second sentence? The parent seemed to be asking for help and that seemed to be on-topic. Though I suppose it could be inferred from the first sentence... but I think even the first sentence alone would have been likely to instigate the same response. Which then makes me wonder if it really is "ok to talk about [my] own experience" in an entirely on-topic discussion?

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Post by throwmeback »

drcongo wrote: post #157
elliotec wrote: post #50

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Same. I'm a big time psychedelic advocate, and relatively frequent consumer. Prozac actually saved my life. Psychedelics since have certainly enhanced it, but they could not accomplish what prozac did. I can go into more detail if interested.

Same here, but sertraline.

Wouldn't be here today without it.

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Post by kemayo »

sixQuarks wrote: post #284
kemayo wrote: post #216

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For what it's worth, from my understanding, you've got a lot of room before that even hits what's considered a "normal" recreational dose -- which I think is around 3.5g of dried psilocybin. Broadly speaking, if you don't have a history of bipolar / schizophrenia, it sounds like you'd be pretty safe from lasting consequences. Separately, "bad trips" mostly seem to happen when you go towards higher than normal doses,…

I've had a bad trip once where I took too much, but I realize it was because of the amount I took. Do you microdose daily?

I don't, sorry. I know people who do, but I don't have direct personal experience with doing so. None of them had any negative outcomes from it with occasional larger doses, but as far as I know none of them went too extreme on those doses.

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Post by troyvit »

BillyTheMage wrote: post #44
pstuart wrote: post #12

It comes at a price point many can't afford. There should be more options. As noted elsewhere, it is powerful medicine and not without risks. But we also need to remember that many other medications come with significant risk as well, including suicidal ideation. So yes, it's powerful and should be treated with respect, but many of those other medications don't require you to spend thousands of dollars to have a baby…

Thousands of dollars? Sounds like a scam to me. Just have a friend babysit you like everyone else.

We need a rover.com for mushrooms.

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Post by droopyEyelids »

asow92 wrote: post #163

I'm not a very spiritual person, but mushrooms are as close to "talking to God" as I've been able to muster in my lifetime.

In day-to-day life the concept of "God" is used nonsensically at best, and often maliciously, so it's natural to dismiss it as cynical bullshit.

But taking those mushrooms, one can see that there is something real in that direction, just obscured by millennia of deceit and misdirection.

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Post by holden_nelson »

perfecto_maduro wrote: post #287
davmre wrote: post #19

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Counterpoint: SSRIs were transformative for my depression. Side effects were minor and manageable (eg, Wellbutrin worked well to prevent any sexual dysfunction). I was on them for several years and had no problem tapering off. My understanding is that this is a pretty typical experience. Rhetoric like this was actively harmful in dissuading me for years from trying what ended up being by far the most effective treatm…

How did you decide to stop? I’ve been on Escitalopram for a few months now after suffering depression and anxiety that affected (and was affected by) my work relationship. My GP tried to get me down from 10mg to 5mg but I felt terrible again. I’m now on 7.5mg and feel ok. But I can’t imagine stopping. Like ever. I wonder how I could stop. Or perhaps just accept and take them forever?

I was on escitalopram for a while. Then I added Wellbutrin, took away the escitalopram, added fluoxetine, and now I’m off all of it.

My advice is to take a breath and focus on the present. Chip away at what’s causing your anxiety. Don’t shy away from working on yourself. Use your medication as a tool, not as a solution.

I’m painfully aware that these are all much easier said than done. It was a three year journey for me. And who knows - I may start having panic attacks again. If I do, I’m going to try buspar.

Also. Don’t be afraid to switch medications. Don’t just live with severe side effects. Sexual dysfunction, lethargy, significant weight gain - this is no way to live your life. I found the Prozac - Wellbutrin combo to be pretty tame in that department.

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Post by holden_nelson »

stcroixx wrote: post #141
davmre wrote: post #19

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Counterpoint: SSRIs were transformative for my depression. Side effects were minor and manageable (eg, Wellbutrin worked well to prevent any sexual dysfunction). I was on them for several years and had no problem tapering off. My understanding is that this is a pretty typical experience. Rhetoric like this was actively harmful in dissuading me for years from trying what ended up being by far the most effective treatm…

Some cause permanent changes in the brain. No thanks.

That might be what some people are looking for.

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Post by pstuart »

PawgerZ wrote: post #300
pstuart wrote: post #188

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Woah! That was "the other spin" I had in mind. I've had "friends" in the OTO and that is something I'd like to avoid, but yes, please! My contact info is in my profile -- please ping me, as I'd love to get involved.

OTO?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordo_Templi_Orientis

Creepy dudes using mysticism to get laid

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Post by dang »

explaininjs wrote: post #301
dang wrote: post #294

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Please don't take HN threads further into religious flamewar. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Could you explain what about my comment you consider to be a "flamewar"? As far as I was aware we were simply acting out the Parable of the Sower as an example of my prior narrative.

It was responding to a religious battle comment with a religious battle comment. We don't want that here.
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