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We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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The thought of my children being put to bed by a machine is horrifying. Then again, perhaps this is better than many kids have. Shudder.

And then the wedding speech. What are they thinking over there at OpenAI? This is supposed to be a productivity enhancer, not a way to outsource the most meaningful applications of human language…

> And then the wedding speech. What are they thinking over there at OpenAI?

They are trying to make their product sound not as terrifying as it actually is.

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I think this post-factual attitude is stronger and more common in some cultures than others. I'm afraid to say but given my extensive travels it appears American culture (and its derivatives in other countries) seems to be spearheading this shift.

Warning, my opinion ahead: I think it's because Americans, more than nearly all other cultures, love convenience. It's why the love for driving is so strong in the US. Don't walk or ride, drive. Once I was walking back from the grocer in Florida with 4 shopping bags, and people pulled over and asked if my car had broken down and if I needed a ride, people were stunned...I was walking for exercise and for the environm…

I've also identified convenience as a core factor. Another dynamic at play is this:

As convenience in a domain becomes ubiquitous or at least expected among consumers, they quickly readjust their evaluation of "having time for X" around the new expectation of the convenient service, treating all alternatives as positive opportunity cost. This would explain a lot of those folks who are upset when it's suggested that they don't need Amazon, Instacart, etc. in their lives if they are to do something about their contributions to mass labor exploitation.

Of course these conveniences quickly become ubiquitous in large economies with a glut of disposable income, which encourages VCs to dump money into these enterprises so they're first to market, and also to encourage the public to believe that the future is already here and there's no reason to worry about backsliding or sustainability of the business model. Yet in every single case we see prices eventually rise, laborers squeezed, etc. A critical mass of people haven't yet acknowledged this inevitability, in no small part due to this fixation on convenience at the expense of more objective, reasoned understandings (read: post-truth mindset).

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Statistical diagnoses models have offered similar possibilities in medicine for 50 years. Pretty much, the idea is that you can get a far more accurate diagnosis if you take into account the medical history of everyone else in your family, town, workplace, residence and put all of it into a big statistical model, on top of your symptoms and history. However, medical secrecy, processes and laws prevent such things, ev…

This is what effectively doctors do - educated guessing. In my view, while statistical models would probably be an improvement ( assuming all confounding factors are measured ), the ultimate solution is not to get better at educated guessing, but to remove the guessing completely, with diagnostic tests that measure the relevant bio-medical markers.

Without a perfect framework for differential diagnosis, this is still educated guessing. In my opinion we're closer to the AI singularity than we are to removing guesswork from the medical field.

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fwiw the only piece of AI art that has given me the sense of awe and beauty that art you'd find in a museum gives me was that spiral town image https://twitter.com/MrUgleh/status/1705316060201681313 , which is something you couldn't have really made without AI. But that was only interesting because of the unique human generated idea behind it which was the encoding of a geometric pattern within a scene. Most AI art i…

> which is something you couldn't have really made without AI Serious question: Why not? > Eventually no one will be of any economic value to society. People have value outside of economics — I’m sure you know — and it makes me so sad that we as a society? seem to only care about the money in the end.

I think you're right it could have been created without AI. I'm trying to think of the right way to say it. Maybe it wouldn't have been created without AI? Or AI has made it so simple to express this idea that the idea has been expressed? Or just the idea of inpainting is what has brought this idea forward.

Yes of course people have value outside of economics that's why I said economics and not value in general. I think it's quite sad as a society we've moved towards a value system which is basically what is good for the economy is good, and if you earn more money you are better.

In the past most people were religious and that gave them meaning. Religion is in decline now but I think people are just replacing it with worshipping the progression of technology basically. For the last 100 years there's always been a clear direction to move in to progress technology, and we haven't really had to think very hard. That's what AI is going to bring an end to I think and I have no idea what we are going to do.

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I'm in IT but nowhere near AI/ML/NN. The speed of user-visible progress last 12 months is astonishing. From my firm conviction 18 months ago that this type of stuff is 20+ years away; to these days wondering if Vernon Vinge's technological singularity is not only possible but coming shortly. If feels some aspects of it have already hit the IT world - it's always been an exhausting race to keep up with modern technolo…

Well, good job updating based on new information!

A lot of people just move the goalposts.

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This is the dagger that will make online schooling unviable. ChatGPT already made it so that you could easily copy & paste any full-text questions and receive an answer with 90% accuracy. The only flaw was that problems that also used diagrams or figures would be out of the domain of ChatGPT. With image support, students could just take screenshots or document scans and have ChatGPT give them a valid answer. From wha…

It's true.

I mean what is the point of doing schoolwork when some of the greatest minds of our time have decided the best way for the species to progress is to be replaced by machines?

Imagine you're 16 years old right now, you know about ChatGPT, you know about OpenAI and their plans, and you're being told you need to study hard to get a good career..., but you're also reading up on what the future looks like according to the technocracy.

You'd be pretty fucking confused right now wouldn't you?

It must be really hard at the moment to want to study and not cheat....

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The thought of my children being put to bed by a machine is horrifying. Then again, perhaps this is better than many kids have. Shudder.

I actually think that what is sad is that it seems as if having viable future as a creative visual artist is likely done. This was a major, major, major outlet and sanctuary for certain types of people to find meaning and fulfillment in their life which is now in the process of being wiped out for a quick buck. We'll be told by OpenAI and friends is that it shouldn't be a problem, because those were mundane tasks and…

Well I've been told that AI can't produce anything truly novel, so human artists need only retreat to the final stronghold of originality and surely human exceptionalism will remain unscathed.

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Took me a while to realise I can just type search queries into ChatGPT. e.g. simply "london bridge history" or whatever into the chat and not only get a complete answer, but I can ask it follow-up questions. And it's also personalised for the kinds of responses I want, thanks to the custom instructions setting. ChatGPT is my primary search engine now. (I just wish it would accept a URL query parameter so it could be…

YMMV. For my case on software development, I don't even look on stackoverflow anymore. Just type the tech question, start refining into what is needed and get a snippet of code tailored for what is needed. What previously would take 30 to 60 minutes of research and testing is now less than a couple of minutes.

I know there are a lot of google programmers out there, but was using search engines for programming ever a good idea? Don’t get me wrong, I’ll look up how to do absolutely simple things every day but I basically always look in the official documentation.

Which may be why I’ve been very underwhelmed by GPT so far. It’s not terrible at programming, and it’s certainly better than what I can find on Google, but it’s not better than simply looking up how things work. I’m really curious as to why it hasn’t put a more heavy weight on official documentation for its answers, they must’ve scraped that a long with all the other stuff, yet it’ll give you absolutely horrible suggestions when the real answer must be in its dataset. Maybe that would be weird for less common things, but it’s so terrible at JavaScript that it might even be able to write some of those StackOverflow answers if we’re being satirical, and the entire documentation for that would’ve been very easy to flag as important.

Re: We are beginning to roll out new voice and image capabilities in ChatGPT

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This is the dagger that will make online schooling unviable. ChatGPT already made it so that you could easily copy & paste any full-text questions and receive an answer with 90% accuracy. The only flaw was that problems that also used diagrams or figures would be out of the domain of ChatGPT. With image support, students could just take screenshots or document scans and have ChatGPT give them a valid answer. From wha…

Well, I think the kid will already be logged into ChatGPT using a AI Teacher ChatGPT plugin which is doing interactive instruction.

They can still log in on their phone to cheat though. I wonder if OpenAI will add linked accounts and parental controls at some point. Instance 2 of ChatGPT might "tell" on the kid for cheating by informing Instance 1 running the AI Teacher plugin.

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That wasn't my point. I'm saying that if the human brain is a physical object obeying physical laws, and all behaviour is a result of the physical state of this brain, then there is no room for the metaphysical to have any effect on the behaviour of a human.

What's the metaphysical have to do with anything?

Because consciousness is metaphysical? You can't test scientifically if one person's red is the same as another's.
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