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Re: Don't use Discord as your Q&A forum

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Post by yomlica8 »

naniwaduni wrote: post #296
yomlica8 wrote: post #295

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Reddit basically stole all of traditional forums' thunder and removed their weaknesses as the same time. Setting up, maintaining and moderating a forum takes time and money. It takes less of the former and maybe none of the later. And for users creating an account is quick and doesn't even need an email so they can quickly reply even if they just blundered in from google.

Reddit definitely demands an email to register. It's unclear to me whether they verify it (I didn't bother to check), but it's the first thing they ask for.

They have changed the UI to make you think it is required. Start with old.reddit.com and click next with the field empty.

Re: Don't use Discord as your Q&A forum

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Post by brucethemoose2 »

croes wrote: post #162
brucethemoose2 wrote: post #93

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So many project subreddits are just dead and sterile. And Discord is a much more engaging place to just shoot the breeze. TBH a Reddit isn't much of a "threat" unless its a really popular subject and the original forum is really bad.

>So many project subreddits are just dead and sterile. And Discord is a much more engaging place to just shoot the breeze. The same could happen with amy Discord. No users means no users, no matter if it's Discord or Reddit But I can find and read a subreddit via search engine without joining anything.

Oh, you are preaching to the choir, I am not arguing against Reddit. Discord is an information wasteland.

But if users want to start and join one to shoot the breeze, I think they are mostly going to pick Dsicord.

Re: Don't use Discord as your Q&A forum

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Post by Pannoniae »

cgriswald wrote: post #290
Pannoniae wrote: post #260

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"someone respects them enough to say it." "They’re also good for the recipient." I've never seen anyone learning anything from being permabanned from anywhere. This is just post-facto justification to make yourself feel better for removing those people - but don't believe it even for a second that you've helped them in any way. Helping the community? Could be. Helping the banned person? Hell no.

Is it your experience that the only party to benefit from ending a relationship is the one ending it?

Correct

Re: Don't use Discord as your Q&A forum

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Post by rcxdude »

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #277
rcxdude wrote: post #269

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>Yeah, and? This is weird. You're effectively saying someone telling you to go away has to allow you to make a counterpoint. No they don't. If you're irritating them they're absolutely going to use tools at hand to make you go away. If that's a problem for you maybe you should work on being less irritating? The issue with blocks as implemented on reddit is that they effectively work as moderation tools that instead o…

Can I get more details on that one? Which subreddit, and why was it so disruptive? Genuinely curious.

Check out rule 11 on https://www.reddit.com/r/skeptic/about/ (they have relaxed the rules a bit because Reddit doesn't provide for a non-abusable block, which is important and useful functionality). But essentially it's disruptive because you can simply block most of the active members of a subreddit and get an unchallenged soapbox, which in a community which wants to correct misinformation is not desired (I think they fixed this particularly stupid idea but for a while you could just block all the moderators and it would be quite difficult for them to even notice you)

Re: Don't use Discord as your Q&A forum

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Post by jhatemyjob »

jrflowers wrote: post #21
jhatemyjob wrote: post #15

Terrible post. 1. This is what the "Ban" feature is for. 2. Anecdotal. Not really an issue in my experience. 3. This is what the Discord API is for. There's a really simple API to dump the chat history. Just make a cron job to dump every 10 min or so, and host that on a static site. Problem solved. 4. See 3.

> This is what the Discord API is for. There's a really simple API to dump the chat history. Just make a cron job to dump every 10 min or so, and host that on a static site. Problem solved. I don’t see why anyone complains about Discord user experience when you can just manually implement basic functionality that the Discord devs didn’t see fit to put in. Why would anybody post on a forum when you could just write a…

I normally don't reply to stuff like this because you are clearly arguing in bad faith. I just wanted to point out you either have failed to read my comment in context, are intentionally mischaracterizing what I said. Going from what I said to "write a custom client for Discord from scratch" has to be a joke. Also that TOS violation thing is simply not true. You are well within your rights to download the history of your own discord server.....

Re: Don't use Discord as your Q&A forum

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Post by dotnet00 »

PaulHoule wrote: post #239
echelon wrote: post #165

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This is the difference between banning in the aughts versus now. Banning used to come with a lot of consideration and sympathy. Often multiple attempts to outreach were made. In the social media era, not only do we ban without prejudice, we shadow ban (leaving them to think they're talking to people), ban on presumption (banning Redditors based on other subreddits they use), and take joy in shutting down those we dis…

I find blocks are almost necessary for me to be able to stand to use Mastodon. There are a lot of decent people there and participating can feel really worthwhile to me but there are a lot of very angry people and even 1% of crazy angry toots can wreck my mood and I feel I wouldn’t want to participate otherwise. One kind of behavior I can’t stand is people who call other people “fascists” indiscriminately because the…

While I can relate to that, as that's how I made Twitter tolerable, is that really as much of an issue on the Fediverse which doesn't have algorithmic recommendations? I only have to see posts from the people I follow and I don't follow anyone who has a tendency to like "rage post"ing so I basically never see that sort of stuff unless I look at the global feed.

Re: Don't use Discord as your Q&A forum

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Post by ToucanLoucan »

rcxdude wrote: post #304
ToucanLoucan wrote: post #277

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Can I get more details on that one? Which subreddit, and why was it so disruptive? Genuinely curious.

Check out rule 11 on https://www.reddit.com/r/skeptic/about/ (they have relaxed the rules a bit because Reddit doesn't provide for a non-abusable block, which is important and useful functionality). But essentially it's disruptive because you can simply block most of the active members of a subreddit and get an unchallenged soapbox, which in a community which wants to correct misinformation is not desired (I think th…

But by virtue of blocking most of any given subreddit to get "an unchallenged soapbox" I mean... you will get that, but:

1) Your post will get very little traction or engagement, which means it'll be buried in New quite quickly

2) You won't really be a bother to the community at all, because of 1. Like, if someone posted something that was incredibly offensive to all in a given community but then hid it from everyone... like, is it even really posted? Isn't that just basically shadowbanning yourself?

I'm legit trying but I'm having a hard time picturing what purpose this would be used for, on the part of the poster. Seems like a huge waste of time to be honest.

Re: Don't use Discord as your Q&A forum

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Post by Karrot_Kream »

hunter2_ wrote: post #212
TylerE wrote: post #191

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Pretty sure you self-wooshed the sarcasm.

Oops, I didn't consider that it was sarcasm. I thought it was mocking the actual average HN perspective (which I'm dissenting from, challenging that average user to explain themself).

It was not intended to be sarcasm. It was indeed a criticism of the average HN perspective which I find far removed from the perspective of a given user.

Re: Don't use Discord as your Q&A forum

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Post by ShadowBanThis01 »

Gigachad wrote: post #105
ShadowBanThis01 wrote: post #9

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phpBB all the way. It gets the job done, and just about every host supports PHP.

How are shared hosts at all relevant these days? For a few dollars a month you get a full linux VPS that you can install anything on.

They're relevant for low-load stuff like a forum. I don't want that on my production server, nor do I want to maintain a second server just for it.

Re: Don't use Discord as your Q&A forum

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Post by TylerE »

Karrot_Kream wrote: post #308
hunter2_ wrote: post #212

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Oops, I didn't consider that it was sarcasm. I thought it was mocking the actual average HN perspective (which I'm dissenting from, challenging that average user to explain themself).

It was not intended to be sarcasm. It was indeed a criticism of the average HN perspective which I find far removed from the perspective of a given user.

Now I’m even more confused. Do you think Usenet, mailing Lists and forums aren’t social media?
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