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New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by kabes »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #170
kabes wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Got a friend working for tesla after-sales service in Europa and he claims the Chinese-made Teslas are better quality than the ones that are American-made

>Chinese-made Teslas are better quality than the ones that are American-made Shit rolls up-hill. It's not that american factory workers are worse at assembling widgets than chinese factory workers, it's that american factory management is shit. British Leyland would also traditionally make garbage cars, but when the Japanese came, those same workers were churning out good cars. Processes, culture, management and lead…

Sure, didn't want to imply it's factory workers fault.

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Mawr wrote: post #294
ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If the cops accuse me of shooting someone in SF, but I was in Berkeley at the time, I might be tempted to tell them that. But then, when they produce a faulty eye-witness, who says they saw me in SF that evening, suddenly I need to discredit that witness in order to resolve my alibi. you have an equal need to disprove the claims of a witness regardless of whether you have an alibi additionally, regardless of whethe…

You don't, because the witness testimony is irrelevant on its own. Without knowing the alibi, there's no reason to think the OP being in SF is an issue at all. See https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE?t=1255

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Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by ffhhttt »

ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #293
maffydub wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the actual example, I don't think the engineers were trying to patent something obvious - it's just not unusual for engineers to casually throw around the word "obvious" for things that are not, and it's unwise to have that written down. (I was the person who provided the ancedote.)

in the actual example, from the information given, I think the engineers were indeed trying to patent something obvious to them, or else they wouldn't have explicitly said it was obvious to them (speaking as an engineer) I guess I need more convincing, 1st that there is indeed full context exonerating the "obvious" quote from meaning what the words mean, and 2nd that it wouldn't work to just provide that context to r…

> or else they wouldn't have explicitly said it was obvious to them (speaking as an engineer)

I’m sorry but you might consider patenting your mind reading device.

It seems pretty easy to imagine engineers spending week/months/etc. solving a specific problem the solution to which might seem pretty ‘obvious’ to them when they actually manage to arrive at it. That doesn’t necessarily mean it’s actually obvious ..

> wouldn't work to just provide that context to resolve the matter

Why take the risk? And even if you end up winning at the end having to prove something like that will still result in additional costs and/or delays.

Your reasoning seems to be based on vague assumptions based on a very vaguely described situation. I find it hard to understand how can someone feel so certain about it with close to zero real context.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by ImPostingOnHN »

ffhhttt wrote: post #303
ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

in the actual example, from the information given, I think the engineers were indeed trying to patent something obvious to them, or else they wouldn't have explicitly said it was obvious to them (speaking as an engineer) I guess I need more convincing, 1st that there is indeed full context exonerating the "obvious" quote from meaning what the words mean, and 2nd that it wouldn't work to just provide that context to r…

> or else they wouldn't have explicitly said it was obvious to them (speaking as an engineer) I’m sorry but you might consider patenting your mind reading device. It seems pretty easy to imagine engineers spending week/months/etc. solving a specific problem the solution to which might seem pretty ‘obvious’ to them when they actually manage to arrive at it. That doesn’t necessarily mean it’s actually obvious .. > woul…

> Your reasoning seems to be based on vague assumptions based on a very vaguely described situation

indeed, with no detail provided, we're forced to make assumptions, or ask for detail

I chose the latter, that is why I included this in my post:

> I guess I need more convincing, 1st that there is indeed full context exonerating the "obvious" quote from meaning what the words mean, and 2nd that it wouldn't work to just provide that context to resolve the matter (e.g. if it truly is exonerating context, why wouldn't providing the context exonerate?)

when I asked for that detail, I just got a snide, uninformed remark about the answer being obvious, from someone who clearly could not come up with an answer

I would like a response to that part of the post if you feel up to providing it, please

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Post by Fatnino »

taftster wrote: post #274
res0nat0r wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teslas are being called MAGAmobiles now that Musk bought Twitter and has shown his love for rightwing disinformation and keeps replying to and platforming alt-right racists and other neo-nazi adjacent folks.

I have this theory that Musk is just playing a long con and deep fake on all of us. He wasn't selling his cars to the likes of MAGA, so he jumped ship and switched sides to make Teslas look cool to the red consumers. The timing of the Cybertruck somewhat coincides with this flip. So now, Teslas are cool according to those right fringe folks. Of course, the blue side consumers are not super excited about Tesla anymore…

I know a guy with a tesla who is most decidedly on the red side of the political spectrum. He had that tesla from before musk turned into his current evolution and my guy currently wants to get rid of his tesla. Build quality issues or something.

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Post by barfingclouds »

OkayPhysicist wrote: post #268
toddmorey wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m shopping for anything EV other than a Tesla now. There are many options now, but Tesla is still way ahead with the power train. Most competitors aren’t at the same place on range & performance yet. It’s an amazing power train glued inside a 90s-era Oldsmobile.

I'm a big fan of my Chevy Bolt. ~250 miles range is plenty for commuting and making day trips to friends and whatnot. Any further than that and I'd want to fly, anyway.

It makes me so happy that Chevy decided to no longer discontinue the Bolt. I’m both poor and currently very happy with my current car (ford cmax). But once this guy’s life is over, I’m looking to a bolt next. Or if Tesla has the rumored Model 2 out by then I’ll consider that as well.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by gwbas1c »

crazygringo wrote: post #150
gwbas1c wrote: post #47

This is a slam-dunk for the typical American lemon law. The owner of the car should go out and find a lemon law lawyer. When I had to work with one I didn't have to pay a thing. (I had a Subaru where the GPS / Stereo would reboot while I drove and loose its settings. After a bunch of replacements, the car still had the problem. I had to catch it on video, though. Subaru ended up declaring the car a lemon after trying…

> Every time I take it in, they never put the car back together and I have to take it back. What does that mean? The car is in 5 pieces? Take it back unfixed? What do you do then to fix it?

I had to go in for a recall on the charging port, and when I came back home the car wouldn't charge because they connected something incorrectly.

When I went back to get the car fixed, they left a bunch of wires disconnected under the back seat.

A few weeks ago I had to go in for a problem with the driver's seat belt. They didn't re-attach the panel with the switches for the power seat correctly, so now it keeps falling off.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by idiotsecant »

ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #293
maffydub wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the actual example, I don't think the engineers were trying to patent something obvious - it's just not unusual for engineers to casually throw around the word "obvious" for things that are not, and it's unwise to have that written down. (I was the person who provided the ancedote.)

in the actual example, from the information given, I think the engineers were indeed trying to patent something obvious to them, or else they wouldn't have explicitly said it was obvious to them (speaking as an engineer) I guess I need more convincing, 1st that there is indeed full context exonerating the "obvious" quote from meaning what the words mean, and 2nd that it wouldn't work to just provide that context to r…

Have you seriously never met an engineer who assumed something was obvious to everyone that was actually only obvious to them? That like, top ten stereotypical engineer behavior.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Post by bob_theslob646 »

gwbas1c wrote: post #270
rsynnott wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I own two Teslas and their service is horrible. Genuinely curious; why did you buy the second one? I might possibly be slightly over-vindictive with brands, but once a brand fails me I’m very reluctant to buy something else from them (a Samsung TV with some silly quality control and firmware issues was enough to make me swear off Samsung, and the Nexus 7 (original one; the one that tended to degrade after about a y…

Because I needed a 3-row vehicle, I refuse to buy anything that runs on gasoline, and the Supercharger network is the only viable high speed charging network in the US.

How do you think that electricity is most likely being generated?
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