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Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by 6510 »

jodrellblank wrote: post #251
janalsncm wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the flip side, the fact that this is a crowded space means that there’s a demand for it. And this isn’t a Reddit clone, it has a business model which is pretty close to the best anyone could hope for in my opinion. In any case, I applaud any efforts that could unseat Reddit or make them reconsider their greedy hard line. I encourage the creator of Non.io to identify the key shortcomings of Reddit and improve upon…

> “ it has a business model ” What’s that story about the economist who was trying to concentrate but there were kids playing soccer below his window and being noisy, so he went out and offered them $1 each if they come back and played tomorrow. The next day he offered them 50c, then 25c, and after that 5c, and the kids got annoyed “we wouldn’t come here to play for a measly five cents!” and stormed off, and didn’t c…

haha right, the cultural problem is that when one has to pay $24 one should loudly cry how expensive it is tirelessly, again and again, all day, every day, until the server is shut down but when one is paid $24 one should be offended by what little money it is and as elaborately and tirelessly explain that your posts are worth so much more. You took whole minutes worth of valuable time out of your day to write them.

What if you pump it up with VC money?

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by yywwbbn »

DerekBickerton wrote: post #72
root_axis wrote: post #36

Congrats on the hard work, and the idea is fine, but the problem is that tech like this is a cheap commodity in a massively oversaturated space, and without a hook that makes the platform exceptional (innovative/clever/beautiful design, unique aggregation features, inherently interesting content, reimagined user/content/moderation dynamics etc etc), this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network e…

> this kind of thing is dead in the water because it lacks a network effect Which is why launching any social network is a dice roll. You need that initial momentum to propel it further, or some 'lucky break' to get it popular. Many social networks got popular accidentally, typically because some VIP joined the platform and everyone went to follow the VIP, increasing DAUs / MAUs which is the only metric social media…

Also back in the day tech was moving fast (i.e. UX and frontend would become outdated in a year if not months) and you didn’t to compete with multi-billion dollar companies.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by nephanth »

janalsncm wrote: post #287
jodrellblank wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> “ it has a business model ” What’s that story about the economist who was trying to concentrate but there were kids playing soccer below his window and being noisy, so he went out and offered them $1 each if they come back and played tomorrow. The next day he offered them 50c, then 25c, and after that 5c, and the kids got annoyed “we wouldn’t come here to play for a measly five cents!” and stormed off, and didn’t c…

I’m not sure. I think it’s an interesting experiment at least. My prediction is that it will encourage clickbaity behavior similar to YouTube, which also has a profit sharing mechanism. Long form content has little chance to compete against drive-by laughs and memes. Maybe donations would help.

Medium is a prime example of monetization leading to poor content

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by ColoursofOSINT »

carlosjobim wrote: post #133

I think the subscription and redistribution idea is the future of a sustainable internet. You will need some way to make sure this money given to the original content creators, or the website will be completely overrun by spammers re-posting other people's material that they know will net them the most money. Or am I tripping? It's a bad choice to have all images in Google file format if you want your website to be a…

Moderation is a big concern for me, as well as the rules should be better clarified, but I can understand the lack of content as it just launched - I agree, however, with the proposals in not having the google file format.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by jonplackett »

I love this idea but I cannot figure how to sign up.

On mobile the site does not really work at all. Everything’s scrolled off the page and then way to small. When I zoom out.

I click sign up, nothing happens…

I guess I’ll have to go see if my laptop is charged up

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by Nition »

beowulfey wrote: post #265
hansworst wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder though whether people will upvote differently knowing that there's real money involved.

Maybe for the better. I think personally I’d be more inclined to upvote posts/content that I enjoy if I knew it directly supported them. Same reason I buy albums that I love despite me already having Spotify—to give back to the creators.

I was thinking this too. I'd be even less inclined to upvote low-effort posts, knowing that I'd also be paying them for that low effort. And more inclined to upvote high effort, less visible posts - both because I think they deserve my money more, and because being more upvoted = being more seen = getting paid more by others as well.

I'd also give out upvotes more sparingly overall, since upvoting a post reduces the amount my previously upvoted posts will get paid.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by johnnyanmac »

jodrellblank wrote: post #251
janalsncm wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the flip side, the fact that this is a crowded space means that there’s a demand for it. And this isn’t a Reddit clone, it has a business model which is pretty close to the best anyone could hope for in my opinion. In any case, I applaud any efforts that could unseat Reddit or make them reconsider their greedy hard line. I encourage the creator of Non.io to identify the key shortcomings of Reddit and improve upon…

> “ it has a business model ” What’s that story about the economist who was trying to concentrate but there were kids playing soccer below his window and being noisy, so he went out and offered them $1 each if they come back and played tomorrow. The next day he offered them 50c, then 25c, and after that 5c, and the kids got annoyed “we wouldn’t come here to play for a measly five cents!” and stormed off, and didn’t c…

>but if you take $24 from me for a year and then offer me $0.0193 for my efforts based on upvotes I might feel a bit cheesed off about it.

is that how it works? I thought it was offering payments based on who creates posts or other community tools, not based on participation.

you are correct that 2 cents would be a pittance to me who doesn't even want to be paid to browse content. But if I and 1000 others gave that 2 cents to what we thought was quality content, that could make someone's day (not career per se. But $20 from random strangers feels good). At scale that's basically how YT/Twitch work, except they don't take money directly from us so much as time (for ads).

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by doublerabbit »

So, I signed up, paid and I am already concerned by the financial information page.

1: Within the financial page, I have a wallet of $844.33 -- Can you elaborate on what this is?

2: https://non.io/admin/financials appears accessible by all.

a: I selected $7 for my monthly subscription, however the financial page displays as $9.

b: I can't amend the amount nor can I cancel my subscription. The UI buttons are not working on Chromium & Firefox on FreeBSD.

c: What are all these other contributions?

3: Your support page leads me to GitHub, I don't own a GitHub account.

4: Text editor is so very broken: https://non.io/itsverybroken

Maybe maintenance mode is required? Good for the first stress test and I've learnt a lesson of maybe not paying for something that's not a final product ;) Although hope to see these improvements.

Re: Show HN: Non.io, a Reddit-like platform Ive been working on for the last 4 years

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Post by ysavir »

root_axis wrote: post #61
benreesman wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a lot of this is exactly the kind of constructive critique the OP is looking for, and I upvoted your comment for being high-value. But I’m currently working on being a little more diplomatic, and too often I regret throwing in low-signal “this is a tech demo” type summaries next to my substantial remarks. I hope this comes off as “fellow user working on this” and not a person in a glass house with rocks.

Yes! I made a little edit just to make it clear I'm not trying to dismiss the hard work, and even though it's a really hard space to compete in, someone has to try or there will never be alternatives.

If you're open for alternatives, framing it in in a way like "I know you're trying to accomplish X, but due to Y, I think the outcome is more along Z". So something like "I know you're going for a soft launch, but without providing a more concrete and demonstrative user experience, the current status of the project is more of a tech demo".

This approach acknowledges what the person is trying to accomplish, and lays out the obstacles before arriving at the conclusion, which then feels more natural. The recipient is able to follow your thinking and hopefully "arrive" at the conclusion along with you. When you start with the conclusion, you risk having a jarring moment where you start with something unexpected, and that can generate friction.

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