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Re: Substack Notes Launched

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Post by strunz »

g42gregory wrote: post #188
jpmattia wrote: post #115

It wasn't like Twitter's business had a large technical barrier-to-entry. And Musk seems to be pissing away his non-technical barrier-to-entry just about as hard as he can. Good luck to Substack on eating twitter's lunch! Edit: That said, I've found mastodon (@jpmattia@mastodon.mit.edu) to be a much more pleasant interaction compared to twitter, so I'm curious what the landscape looks like in a couple of years.

Well, he is definitely upsetting some (many) people. But, at the same time, he is getting the new set of people as users. In the last few years, I would not touch Twitter with a ten-foot pole. Mostly because, I could no longer assess the provenance of the posts and the authenticity of their rankings. Is this post popular/important or is this post was put into my stream by Twitter/other entities in order to influence…

Wait, what? This made no sense.

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Post by Pxtl »

jpmattia wrote: post #115

It wasn't like Twitter's business had a large technical barrier-to-entry. And Musk seems to be pissing away his non-technical barrier-to-entry just about as hard as he can. Good luck to Substack on eating twitter's lunch! Edit: That said, I've found mastodon (@jpmattia@mastodon.mit.edu) to be a much more pleasant interaction compared to twitter, so I'm curious what the landscape looks like in a couple of years.

I'm loving Mastodon myself (@pxtl@mastodon.social) but I worry that the UI stumbling blocks caused by the multi-server system and the far-poorer discoverability than what we're used to from Twitter will keep it from growing well -- twitter's algorithmic feed and relevant-to-the-user trending topics and features like that help make twitter feel lively even for a new user even with just a handful of follows. I don't know that Twitter would be as successful today as it is now without those features.

Re: Substack Notes Launched

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Post by geraneum »

ceejayoz wrote: post #285
jimsimmons wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should look up global search volumes and Google share of it. There’s no dent

> You should look up global search volumes and Google share of it. There’s no dent. "You should look up global search volumes and Yahoo's share of it. There’s no dent" was once a valid statement. Same for Altavista, MySpace, etc. You can go from on top to the bottom very fast in this realm.

Same could be said when iPhone came out. Now look where Android is. The fact that something happened to others means nothing. Could go either way.

edit: typo

Re: Substack Notes Launched

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Post by raytube »

alfor wrote: post #283
markstos wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used Bing today. I’m denting.

I tried Edge and bing, God awful. You just feel their desire to take control of your experience of the web. On the flip site, made me see how much Google own us all.

I use ddg everyday and I hate it. I resort to Google shortly after. Not personalised so I guess I am missing out on decent returns.

Re: Substack Notes Launched

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Post by PaulHoule »

Substack really competes with creators leaving and setting up their own newsletter + payment gateway software. That’s like a $20,000 or so project from a web dev firm and for a creator who gets $200,000 a year from their newsletter it pays for itself in a year. The trouble is that substack makes almost all of its money from two handfuls of users who make more than that so if substack loses those creators it is left with all the expenses but none of the revenue.

The question about any feature they add is “what does it do about that situation?”

Re: Substack Notes Launched

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Post by lenkite »

a4isms wrote: post #278
czbond wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter's barrier wasn't that it was technically hard - it was that it was free and had critical mass. There still isn't much of a reason to move away from it, except for those who want to signal their disdain for Musk's political views

There still isn't much of a reason to move away from it, except for those who want to signal their disdain for Musk's political views This says so much more about you than about anyone leaving Twitter. I'm a person of colour. Do I have not have a reason to leave a web site that platforms people who espouse the belief that my children are a disease that needs to be eradicated with fire?[1] Of course I do, and you know…

I am a person of colour too. And I don't get what is wrong with what the person you replied to said.

I mean, if you wish to signal your disdain for Musk's political views, you can leave Twitter. How is that an "attempt to invalidate and dismiss people's concerns" ?

And radical "woke" folks have been tweeting about killing and murdering white people on twitter for ages without much blowback. I always found it strange that was tolerated in the woke twitter days.

If Twitter fails - which it may definitely do - it will be because Musk screwed up and fired a lot of good engineering folk and got rid of power user features - which has made a lot of creators angry. But "racism" is un-likely to be the primary driving cause. It has always existed on Twitter.

Re: Substack Notes Launched

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Post by phtrivier »

WheatMillington wrote: post #192
phtrivier wrote: post #169

You can now start a timer until they announce that they're going to algorithmically organize the feed of "Notes" because "chronological order is too hard to follow." Then, they will let an Algo organize the feed of articles. Then the ads - no, wait, the "sponsored post - will start popping in, etc, etc... Maybe they won't. I enjoy substack as it is today, and maybe they'll pull it off. But I can't help seing this as…

Catastrophising about a future that doesn't exist based on pure speculation. You're already upset about this product on the basis that bad things MIGHT happen in the future. Live in the moment, this type of chronic negativity is unhealthy.

I not sure I'm upset yet, but I'm definitely concerned, and rather pessimistic on the outcome.

Looks too much like deja vu all over again.

What bother me the most is that they don't seem to address the issue at all in the announcement. I'm not going to pretend I'm the only one who sees how things could get awry here. I wish they had at least given a nod to the very likely worst case scenario, and maybe explained why they think they're in a better position then pretty-much-every-other-social-media.

I just wonder how long it's going to take for:

* this Notes tab to be the first thing that the app opens

* Content from people I have not subscribed to, to be the first thing in the Notes tab

* This content being stuff I do not care about

* In short form

* Optimized to get "engagement" (aka "arguments between trolls")

We'll see...

Re: Substack Notes Launched

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Post by redmaverick »

jimsimmons wrote: post #221
Cardinal7167 wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The great shake up has started. Google pissing their pants with AIs abrupt arrival, Twitter dying a death by a million cuts, Facebook in mid-air making their VR play, the tech skyline will look very different in 5 years.

You should look up global search volumes and Google share of it. There’s no dent

you should look at all the blockbuster stores and Netflix's share of it. There's no dent. ~ Someone in 1997.
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