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Post by FpUser »

kevviiinn wrote: post #292
FpUser wrote: post #197

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>"Nobody seriously uses AWS/GCP/Azure to have a couple VMs or dedicated servers alone" It actually does happen. They build some software, deploy it on VM and have said software use cloudy database service that removes a headache of maintaining backups, standby, point in time recovery, secure data at rest. I have couple of shell scripts that do all of that and use Hetzner but I can imaging some org with enough money t…

Time to start charging corporations to use your shell scripts I guess They already pay for the cloud and someone to manage their cloud stuff I bet they would shell out half that if you offered your scripts. I think that just shows how nonsensical these cloud providers really are when you can just write some scripts to handle it

>"Time to start charging corporations to use your shell scripts I guess"

Believe me I do ;) I adapt those to particular products I develop for my clients. However not worth my time to bother releasing those in generic form. Suddenly I would have to satisfy bazillion specific constraints and requirements for generic users.

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Post by dpedu »

gregoriol wrote: post #291
dpedu wrote: post #283

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I don't think this is accurate. I have rented an OVH dedicated server (through SoYouStart) for about the last decade, let me share some maintenance experiences: > They don't monitor other health issues however (how would they since you are running your own system?) and therefore don't do anything before they detect a "down" status. My server has a hardware raid card. I have had one incident where OVH contacted me and…

What you describe are hardware failures, and as I said they detect hardware failures. When the server goes down, they are on it by themselves. But somes issues are not failures and you have to work on them on your side. Most of the time the raid is software nowadays for example. IPv6 works fine for my many servers at OVH.

I don't see that in what you wrote but I did see the mention of them not monitoring raid. Hence one reason why I thought your comment is inaccurate, per my experience.

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Post by derfabianpeter »

throwaway77384 wrote: post #110

Does anyone know of a managed postgres service that happens to use Hetzner? I'm running my own PG instances on Hetzner, but getting tired of managing it myself. Going with a 3rd party makes me worried about latency (currently it's like 1-4ms...I'd rather not increase that to 50ms for a service located somewhere else). Haven't found anything by Googling, so was wondering if anyone here works somewhere that does this.

I happen to run a company that specializes in this: https://www.ayedo.de

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Post by lazypenguin »

cma wrote: post #263
notamy wrote: post #198

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Not if you're running game servers; those require plain UDP (sometimes TCP) proxying and CF only offers that on the enterprise plan afaik.

I'm not sure if this is the enterprise plan, but it is designed for proxying game servers and preventing ddos like steam's newer networking: https://www.cloudflare.com/products/cloudflare-spectrum/

It’s incredibly expensive, looked into it before.

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Post by senorsmile »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #213
abujazar wrote: post #131

I've been using Hetzner servers for ~15 years with multiple clients and employers, and always been disappointed with other providers compared to what Hetzner delivers. OVH with their frequent network level outages, the 2021 fire and so on. DigitalOcean with their way too frequent and long lasting maintenance windows. And AWS/GCP/Azure with their obscene pricing, ridiculous SLA and occasional hour-lasting outages. One…

The first time I saw Hetzner's pricing - I assumed it must've been a scam - since it seemed like such an incredible deal, and yet I hadn't heard of a single person that ever used it. Glad that I'm regularly seeing how awesome this company is lately.

I've been using Hetzner for many years. I've had a couple maintenances on baremetal servers over the last several years. Otherwise, the only down time has been self inflicted.

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Post by n3storm »

danwee wrote: post #31
n3storm wrote: post #27

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Hardware inside server is up to you to notify Hetzner. After more than 10 years never have an issue but disk degradation after many use. Then you contact support, appoint disk change, you first deactivate disk on raid (save geometry etc), they replace disk and then you rebuild raid in new disk. That's it. With SSD you may not even need to do this anymore.

> Then you contact support, appoint disk change, you first deactivate disk on raid (save geometry etc), they replace disk and then you rebuild raid in new disk. That's it. I imagine this would take time, right? Like not 5 minutes, but maybe 3 hours top? So, if I pretend to run a saas (that shouldn't be down more than 1h/day), then renting only 1 dedicated server could be qualified as "risky"?

Is risky, 3 hours top is a good estimation. You can appoint for an out of business hours change. But better choose another strategy start cloning disk at first failure notice and cancelling old server.

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Post by n3storm »

Symbiote wrote: post #40
danwee wrote: post #31

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> Then you contact support, appoint disk change, you first deactivate disk on raid (save geometry etc), they replace disk and then you rebuild raid in new disk. That's it. I imagine this would take time, right? Like not 5 minutes, but maybe 3 hours top? So, if I pretend to run a saas (that shouldn't be down more than 1h/day), then renting only 1 dedicated server could be qualified as "risky"?

I'm not sure what "deactivating RAID" means. They will all be hot-swap disks. You remove the old disk and slide in the new one (or in this case, tell them to do it). The RAID system rebuilds the array in the background over the next few hours. During that time you will lose data if it's RAID 5 and another disk fails.

I am using software raid servers, as other commenters say is not a hot swapping disks operation, is cold swap :D

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Post by xslvrxslwt »

Nextgrid wrote: post #193
xslvrxslwt wrote: post #167

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Hetzner is not on the level of the any you mentioned. It's dirt cheap because latencies and protections against exploits are non-existent, sure it serves good when you don't have such needs but the moment you need any (i.e. DDoS protection and low/stable ms for game servers) - hetzner is out of the window. - Someone that used to fry lil hetzner servers for fun

Presumably you can front it with CloudFlare if you need DDoS protection?

Addition to the replies before mine, even if you could use CF - it's a joke, it's easily bypassable and there's tons of methods to do it (i.e. the most common we used is huge botnets with simply emulated browsers sending tons of req/s, and that's just the 'public' one, there's tons of private ones we used to write ourselves that were much complex but needless as the one I mentioned before worked just fine)
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