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How to lose $950 quickly on Airbnb

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Re: How to lose $950 quickly on Airbnb

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jmugan wrote: post #249
trhr wrote: post #9

I had the same thing happen to me. Not only do I not stay at AirBNBs anymore, I cancelled my Discover Card when they refused to fix it... after ~15 years as a customer. Once you hit a certain tax bracket and your purchases tend to be of a certain value, you start getting a more skilled person trying to fuck you, and they often win. At this income bracket, it's time to get an AmEx (or another card with really good pay…

Is that what AmEx is for? I've always wondered in all honesty. I had a similar experience with non-AmEx. Got double billed by a hotel and the credit card company initially didn't have my back. I had to go back and forth with them multiple times even with a seemingly obvious fraud.

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Re: How to lose $950 quickly on Airbnb

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Post by xwdv »

caminante wrote: post #253
xwdv wrote: post #183

Am I missing something? Why didn’t the author just say yes he was staying as well? In fact he was going to be there at check in, just not sleeping there. Do you really think they’ll check the bed to see if you’re in it every night? The host is not your friend, if you’re doing anything odd with an Airbnb it’s best to just be quiet and not divulge more info than what is necessary.

> Am I missing something? AirBnB's TOS which provides reasoning. [0] This policy isn't foreign to hotels. I don't want customers signing in their kids for a room to throw a party without the parents present. They do these checks to limit fraud you describe. The cancellation refund discretion is part of the host's TOS , too. [0] https://www.airbnb.com/help/article/427

Putting it in a TOS is one thing, how is it enforced?

Also, it’s trivial to book a room at a hotel and have someone else check in under the reservation as long as you put them on the guest list. I’ve done it before. Not sure how this is fraud.

Re: How to lose $950 quickly on Airbnb

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Post by antisthenes »

trhr wrote: post #9

I had the same thing happen to me. Not only do I not stay at AirBNBs anymore, I cancelled my Discover Card when they refused to fix it... after ~15 years as a customer. Once you hit a certain tax bracket and your purchases tend to be of a certain value, you start getting a more skilled person trying to fuck you, and they often win. At this income bracket, it's time to get an AmEx (or another card with really good pay…

Or just lie about also staying there. Say "yes, I will be staying there as primary customer", go there give the keys to your sister and that's the end of the story.

Seriously, I am renting a place from you for 2-3 days for $1000, it's none of your goddamn business who's staying there. It's mine for 2-3 days to do as I please, as long as it's not trashed and neighbors don't complain.

Re: How to lose $950 quickly on Airbnb

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Post by Meph504 »

Nextgrid wrote: post #121
Meph504 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many states have laws that are specific extra penalties for this sort of malicious behavior. Not only could it cost you the cost of undoing any damage you've done, but criminal charges on top of it. probably not the best advice to be giving to people.

Key words being "plausibly deniable".

You find that term plays a lot more on TV than the courts, but feel free to roll those dice.

Re: How to lose $950 quickly on Airbnb

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Post by therealdrag0 »

dahfizz wrote: post #177
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are lots of alternatives. Agoda, Booking.com, and many similar sites offer short-term apartment rentals. Also, in much of the world outside the US, hotels are a better and surer bet than short-term apartment rentals. Look at it like this: Would you pay $950 for the privilege of using AirBNB? I sure wouldn't. An "AirBNB Membership fee" on the order of $950 should seem absurd.

Even in the US, hotels are better and cheaper than airbnbs

For one person maybe. Otherwise not in my experience.

Re: How to lose $950 quickly on Airbnb

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Post by therealdrag0 »

zeroonetwothree wrote: post #79
londons_explore wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you actually likely to win this chargeback? I'm sure that airbnb made the terms very clear in their million page T&C's document...

He paid for a service they didn’t provide. So there is definitely some argument to it. I guess they could say they will still provide the service? lol

Why would you reduce the transaction to a single sentence and think that overrides a many page fully qualified set of terms agreed upon for service?

Re: How to lose $950 quickly on Airbnb

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Post by therealdrag0 »

zoklet-enjoyer wrote: post #36

I refuse to use Airbnb after a couple of shitty experiences. The first time, the place was fine and everything. The issue was that when I got there the host told me that he wasn't supposed to be renting out his apartment, gave me a description of the property manager, and told me to tell the manager that I'm friends with the host and staying with him for a few days if the property manager chats me up. So it was just…

How were the reviews on these places and how many?
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