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Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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The worst part of this is that everyone at GitHub is now forced to use Microsoft Teams.

I used Skype 15y ago it's a great experience. Recently tried to install teams on Ubuntu it's absolutely shit show, so many url redirects and meaningless erros. Leaving skype as it's would have been a million times better

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Fortune now confirming: https://fortune.com/2023/02/09/github-is-laying-off-10-of-st...

>i) Effective immediately, we will be moving laptop refreshes from three years to four years. ii) We will be moving to Microsoft Teams for the sole purpose of video conferencing, saving significant cost and simplifying cross-company and customer conversations Layoffs and having to use teams? Talk about a morale hit

Slowing down laptop refreshes is so short sighted. One of the cheapest productivity boosts you can give someone is a faster laptop. Better than hiring another dev to join a bloated team.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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this is terrifying. for all the grief people give Slack, I've used both and I would seriously consider leaving a company that expected me to use Teams long term.

Can someone give me the TLDR on why they hate teams so much? I suppose I work in an organization with few true "technical" folks, and everyone is under Microsoft licenses so it doesn't seem like that big of a deal. I've used both slack and teams. What am I really missing out on here?

It really comes down to the details. If the little things don't get on your nerves and you just care about putting messages in a IRC-esque interface that everyone else can see then there's no difference. Here's a really high level tldr: Teams is annoying in dozens of small minor ways that are collectively very frustrating.

For a more detailed take:

Slack is far from perfect but Slack is generally clean, quick, simple and compact. Slack feels like a purpose built tool for chat. Even when they add stuff like huddles it never feels like the priority is anything but the chat. When they roll out updates that make typing or formatting jankier I find they often get a fix out quickly.

Teams feels like it is doing a little bit of everything and is slower, wastes screen real estate, has poor UX all over and does a lot of things so-so to decent vs. one thing really well. Why is chat so different in a Teams/Chat vs a Teams/Teams/Channel? You can't even do the same markdown formatting in those places. And speaking of markdown, you can type a backtick around a string to monospace it like in slack but if it's at the end of your message it won't format it. You need a trailing space for it to kick in the formatter. Little details matter and a lack of attention to them as an organization makes bad UX and weird behavior leak into your software.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

#304

When I visited the GitHub office in SF in 2017, it was nearly empty. Given how extravagant and beautiful it is, it struck me as a colossal waste of money even then.

In 2017 it was relatively empty... but the company filled it very quickly as it grew from 200 to 2000 people. So much so they leased out the building next door and tore down some walls to deal with capacity. Sad to hear it's being shut down that office is truly incredible.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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I am absolutely certain this is to suppress wages and employee rights. It is a coordinated effort across the industry and should be immediately investigated.

Tech companies know what some people are still pretending may or may not happen. The economy is going to get super rough this year and rates are not going to get cut any time soon.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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I'm quite confused because almost all conversation in my company's slack happens in threads. Maybe your impression of Slack was formed in a time when they didn't have threads?

I'm also confused because almost all of my company's Teams usage happens in unthreaded chats.

The unthreaded chats are all private, no? If you want to use the group chat it forces you into threaded (or is there a way to switch out of that?)

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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Outlook is more or less fine, but share point and teams are abominations

I credit Outlook with the downfall of email as a defacto form of internet communication.

The calendar in Outlook is waaaay better than the Google one, though.

Re: GitHub to lay off 10% and close all offices

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post #73

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How is this the worst part lmao?

You've clearly never used Teams. But in all seriousness Teams is fine for chat and video.

I didn't know it did anything apart from Chat and Video. Perhaps that's why I don't have any problem with it.

What am I missing?

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