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Post by justapassenger »

dchuk wrote: post #14

It’s crazy how far ahead Apple is getting in the laptop game with these new chips. I have the first gen MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro (ok maybe they’re not winning the naming game), and it’s a perfect computer. Battery life is literally all day, every single action is instant, I have zero regard for many apps or tabs I have open. It’s just perfect. I have literally traveled with just a 30 watt anker brick for my phone…

Battery is NOT whole day. People shouldn’t fall for that.

Yeah, battery is great, not arguing that. But if you use heavy web apps and do a lot of VC, half day is best you can get.

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Post by mamby »

csdvrx wrote: post #280
factsarelolz wrote: post #126

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You use a touch screen and pen on something other than a nonfoldable/tablet? Interesting. Thanks for the share.

Depending on how I hold my laptop, yes I like to click and scroll with my finger, especially when taking notes or mindmapping. @temptemptemp111 you seem to be shadowbanned, but your comment is spot on: OLED is about comfort. Sometimes I like working at night, sometimes in the daytime. I want a gorgeous screen that doesn't hurt my eyes, that can go very bright or very dark. Having a powerful CPU is irrelevant when wor…

Touchscreen on laptop is like touch on a phone! once you use it you can't go back! but for Apple users only Apple can convince them...

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Post by mynameisvlad »

nicoburns wrote: post #251
mynameisvlad wrote: post #239

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Apple’s M1 chips already offered improvements compared to their previous generation Intel chips, and Intel hasn’t exactly been innovating in the last 2 years. By all accounts, they have been ahead of Intel, at the very least. I’m not exactly sure how Apple was “behind the state of the art” and has caught up. Can you explain?

> I’m not exactly sure how Apple was “behind the state of the art” and has caught up. Can you explain? The M1 was when they caught up. They were behind the state of the art (of laptop/desktop chip performance) with their A series chips starting with the A4. They gradually caught up over the course of several years to the point that when they released the M1 chip (which was really not that different to the A15) they w…

Yeah, as the other person says, it’s weird to combine A-level chips which were mobile only (minus that short stint where they put it in a Mac Mini before the M1 was ready) with the M-level chips.

Sure, they’re all “Apple Silicon” but the chips should be compared to their equivalents, M-level with Intel/AMD and A-level with Snapdragon/Exonys. We don’t really compare Snapdragon to Core any other time, as they both optimize for vastly different things.

I would also argue that Apple is continuing to make big boosts in their A-level chips compared to their mobile counterparts.

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Post by csdvrx »

xpe wrote: post #270
gigatexal wrote: post #170

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Yup. Software is why I am on Linux on a thinkpad. It’s fast enough. And I control everything.

You may control _more_ but not certainly everything. You choose from the options available to you. You don’t control the processor internals, chipset, networking hardware, or millions of decisions behind the software and hardware. I’d say you curate, but you don’t really control.

> You may control _more_ but not certainly everything

I control some important details, like having 128G of RAM and a dual 4Tb NVMe setup.

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Post by clint »

optymizer wrote: post #153
dchuk wrote: post #14

It’s crazy how far ahead Apple is getting in the laptop game with these new chips. I have the first gen MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro (ok maybe they’re not winning the naming game), and it’s a perfect computer. Battery life is literally all day, every single action is instant, I have zero regard for many apps or tabs I have open. It’s just perfect. I have literally traveled with just a 30 watt anker brick for my phone…

The hardware is indeed great. The software experience is getting worse imo, particularly when upgrading. It used to be rock solid for me. The m1 worked without any issues for 2 months. I upgraded yesterday to macOS Ventura: * Upgrade finished but laptop froze. Hard reset. * On first boot, the new System Settings failed to load icons, then froze. Trying to quit it froze the OS. Hard reset. * I left the laptop plugged…

I have never seen any of the issues you're having here and I've had probably 20-30 iterations of apple products over the last 20 years.

The last true issue I had with apple hardware or software was in 2002-2003ish with a snow iBook that had a motherboard failure, but after that I've had nearly 20 unbroken years of basically fault-free existence which is pretty amazing if you ask me.

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Post by klodolph »

cantSpellSober wrote: post #196
bayindirh wrote: post #99

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Well, when they screw up design, they do it in a spectacular fashion, yes. Considering I buy a new MacBook every decade and they just endure the torture I put them through (I don’t abuse them though), I can say that they are pretty well built machines. Same is true for my 7 year iPhone cycle. I pay similar price to top tier laptops of other big brands, and get what I pay for. Use it for a decade, move the machine to…

> "when they screw up design, they do it in a spectacular fashion" So they do sacrifice for flashiness? > "I buy a new MacBook every decade" Oh, a lot has happened in the last decade. This is an anecdote about 1 or 2 machines you've owned.

“Torture” here is the wear and tear that a user inflicts on a device over years of use.
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