At this point, why care about Twitter?
Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation
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Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation
#302> First, none of our policies have changed. Our approach to policy enforcement will rely more heavily on de-amplification of violative content: freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach. They recently unbanned many controversial accounts based solely on Twitter polls. Who do they expect will believe these statements?
On November 23, Twitter stopped enforcing its "COVID-19 misleading information" policy. The previous policy received acclaim from medical professionals: In an advisory to technology platforms, US Surgeon General Dr. Vivek Murthy cited Twitter’s rules as an example of what companies should do to combat misinformation. When journalist Kara Swisher in September 2020 confronted Musk with the possibility that many people…
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Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation
#303TLDR: this post is entirely to calm advertisers, it can be boiled down to "don't worry, we still prioritize brand safety like before". It does have this gem in it: "What has changed, however, is our approach to experimentation. As you’ve seen over the past several weeks, Twitter is embracing public testing. We believe that this open and transparent approach to innovation is healthy, as it enables us to move faster an…
> TLDR: this post is entirely to calm advertisers, How though, Twitter has had week(s) to prepare this post and its so bare. > First, none of our policies have changed. ... The team remains strong and well-resourced. If you're Eli Lily, why would you re-advertise on twitter. Nothings changed from when you stopped!
Oh I agree, this post won't change anything at this point. But I guess that's why it was released (and as others noted, also for regulators / to save face after weeks of chaos).
Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation
#304> What has changed, however, is our approach to experimentation including I suppose Elon's experimental approach to management. I hope that in 10 years, we will look back at this twitter 2.0 (= musk's debacle) as the impetus that lead to more widespread adoption of social media 2.0 (= federation) I already see the snowball effect getting momentum with all this coverage (NPR, NYT...) and big name exits (Apple...)
Mastodon doesn't do any of the things I want out of social media, and has the most backwards thinking to moderation. The moderation system is based on witch hunting. Federation can't work when there are discrete sets of people that absolutely hate each other. Right now Mastodon is full of the most far-left people.
Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation
#305If I had the time and resources, I would build a Twitter clone and focus on just getting journalists, editors, reporters, etc on the platform. This is a powerful community that is quite established on Twitter, but I suspect they would be willing to migrate. Maybe something like, Manuscript Wishlist or QueryTracker, but specifically with a Twitter vibe.
Someone is trying this now: https://post.news/
Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation
#306Twitter is totalled. There is no recovery or any amount of repair that will convince anyone that the platform is worth consuming or saving.
Looking at the speed with which this post goes up the HN page, I would say that Twitter is still very relevant.
This is assuming the old "no such thing as bad publicity!" adage is correct and can only mean good things for whoever the subject is. However recall that any new revelations around Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX similarly shoot up the front page and get a load of clicks, eyeballs and comments ... so clearly there's a limit to where this applies.
Twitter isn't in the position FTX is in, but I personally believe that the publicity that Musk and Twitter have been getting over the last month has been nearly universally bad. There is little value in increased user engagement if so much of it is centered around the catastrophic Twitter management and Elon Musk or Tesla parody accounts, particularly if there fewer companies interested in advertising to those users.
Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation
#307I think he'll make it. Not only does it look like Twitter will survive (if the mass-migration to another platform hasn't happened yet, when will it? If the site runs stable after the initial shock, why would it run less stable later?), it just might make Musk more powerful than we could ever imagine. Contrasting with other social media founders/owners he isn't shy to use the platform as a very personal thing, to acti…
> I think he'll make it.
On what basis?
Elon needs cash flow to pay the loans he took to buy Twitter.
Banks don’t give a shit about politics, or mission, or popularity. Banks care about cash flow.
Fact: advertisers (read: cash flow) are leaving Twitter. How will Elon pay off his loans?
Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation
#308TLDR: this post is entirely to calm advertisers, it can be boiled down to "don't worry, we still prioritize brand safety like before". It does have this gem in it: "What has changed, however, is our approach to experimentation. As you’ve seen over the past several weeks, Twitter is embracing public testing. We believe that this open and transparent approach to innovation is healthy, as it enables us to move faster an…
I read the experimentation bit as Twitter (Elon) trying to push the boundaries of what Twitter can get away with from a PR perspective.
Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation
#309Earlier quoted context omitted.
I see comments like this frequently on hackernews and i'm curious on your motivation. Do you actually use twitter so this comment isn't lining up with your expectations? Do you not use twitter and expect this person to justify their experience by doing further research? What is _actually_ motivating you to comment like this?
I personally do, and nothing has changed for me since he took over. I would like to see some semblance of a proof when someone tries to be as bold as to claim something is demonstrably false, he's not talking about having a different experience he is saying as a matter of fact that it is a false statement. For all the jokes about excessive sourcing that hacker news gets it's probably one of the things that keeps it f…
> he is saying as a matter of fact that it is a false statement
Actually, I said "I think."
If I had left off the "I think," then you would be correct about what I said.
Re: Twitter 2.0: Our continued commitment to the public conversation
#310People can read and parse this but face facts: This statement is worthless unless it's personally, and credibly, signed by Elon Musk.