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Post by heavyset_go »

crazygringo wrote: post #134
heavyset_go wrote: post #24

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We like to fingerwag at social media companies for knowingly negatively impacting children's mental health and self-esteem, yet Apple is aware of how their systems ostracize children, in their own peer groups, who can't afford to carry around luxury phones. It's one thing to be ostracized by strangers on social media, it's an entirely other thing to be ostracized by your own friends and peers. The latter is tragicall…

iPhones aren't luxury phones, sheesh. Their flagships are, sure, but the SE is extremely competitive in the US, especially when you consider their longevity and support. And then of course there's the used market. I mean, if 87% of teens own an iPhone, then that's very much by definition NOT luxury, as luxury is necessarily exclusive to some degree.

You can get a new Android phone for $20. The charging cables alone for an iPhone, which don't come with the phone, cost $19 each by themselves.

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Post by ido »

nharada wrote: post #200
lynndotpy wrote: post #140

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My first smartphone, as a highschooler, was $40 (circle 2014). My first "luxury" phone was a $150 Android. A $430 price tag IS a lot.

In the US?? It was VERY rare to find a phone that cheap in 2014. I had a Nexus 5 in 2014 and it went for $350 ($437 in 2022 dollars). And that was considered a really good deal/budget phone.

Nexus was a mid/high-end model (google branded), budget android phones are usually from chinese manufacturers like ZTE.

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Post by testermelon »

rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

I read your comment to my wife and her response was “what is a green bubble?”.

We are living in Japan and here we only use Discord, WhatsApp, and Line for messaging.

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Post by cercatrova »

rejectfinite wrote: post #213
cercatrova wrote: post #182

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Messaging network effects, if you're in an iMessage conversation and an Android user joins, suddenly the conversation becomes SMS only with photo and video sending being crippled. Its the same as a social network, if all your friends use it, you almost have to in order to communicate with them.

They don't use FB Messenger, Discord, Telegram, Whatsapp? People are really out here using the default sms app? lmao Not a thing here, but we do love to ape america so its comming. Its gonna be one shows ppl whatch and then its over.

This always comes up when non-Americans talk about US messaging systems. The simple fact is SMS was good enough (being pretty cheap or even free for many years) that people didn't care to switch. In contrast, many other countries had much more expensive SMS so free messaging systems were built and widely used.

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Post by ghaff »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #240
rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

I know the "green vs blue bubbles" gets a lot of press, but as someone who is not a teenager, and on the contrary is considerably past middle age at this point, that is not the real reason iMessage has a stranglehold on users. I've got an Android, and I recently went on a vacation with a group of friends who all had iPhones. I did feel a bit like a leper in the group chat we had set up for our vacation, and it wasn't…

I guess I'm old in that I basically never use emoji unless the platform changes something like :-) to one. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Post by GekkePrutser »

shawabawa3 wrote: post #82
rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

Do people on androids in the US actually use SMS? My experience in the UK and France is WhatsApp/telegram have basically 100% penetration and SMS is only used by businesses and 2fa

Same here in Spain. I have not communicated over SMS with a real person for 5 years or so. Only thing I get is MFA and spam crap.

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Post by croisillon »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #240
rsync wrote: post #2

My two oldest children - 13 and 15 - have loudly proclaimed that having a "green bubble" would be worse than death .

I know the "green vs blue bubbles" gets a lot of press, but as someone who is not a teenager, and on the contrary is considerably past middle age at this point, that is not the real reason iMessage has a stranglehold on users. I've got an Android, and I recently went on a vacation with a group of friends who all had iPhones. I did feel a bit like a leper in the group chat we had set up for our vacation, and it wasn't…

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

endtime wrote: post #282
eatsyourtacos wrote: post #116

I hate apple with a passion for not opening up iMessage, but here we are. That being said, I am getting my first iPhone in just a few days because I am sick of the 100000 choices between android phones that all suck in one way or another. I don't believe they will last more than a few years if my last samsung is any indication. And I don't give a crap about what android can do- I just want a phone that works. So I gu…

Have you tried a Pixel? I've been happily using them for years.

Pixels have unusually high rates of hardware and software problems over time. The reliability isn't there. The current issue of the month is random failure to call emergency services. If you randomly experience this problem, you could call 911 over and over, dozens of times, without success. It also doesn't matter if you have 4/4 bars.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32713375

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/y039zn/i_compi...

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/rfld6m/comment...

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/x5ea32/life_an...

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/wpirx8/had_an_...

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/v1enh5/cannot_...

https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/176875269/why-w...

Re: 87% of American teens own an iPhone; 88% expect an iPhone to be their next phone

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Post by rejectfinite »

cercatrova wrote: post #304
rejectfinite wrote: post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don't use FB Messenger, Discord, Telegram, Whatsapp? People are really out here using the default sms app? lmao Not a thing here, but we do love to ape america so its comming. Its gonna be one shows ppl whatch and then its over.

This always comes up when non-Americans talk about US messaging systems. The simple fact is SMS was good enough (being pretty cheap or even free for many years) that people didn't care to switch. In contrast, many other countries had much more expensive SMS so free messaging systems were built and widely used.

Yes.
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