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One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by jeremy0x4a »

d23 wrote: post #287
jeremy0x4a wrote: post #56

Whenever I see this iMessage/SMS, blue/green topic come up I descend into an internal debate that, as I get older, I am becoming increasingly familiar with. The debate is that one where I am forced to reconcile whether I am too far removed from popular culture to see how this is a real issue versus accepting that the issue is entirely contrived.

It's a really really really short article. Really short. Please. It gets to the point in the second paragraph: the green bubbles have bad contrast. It mentions the design of the green bubbles rank as "very poor" by accessibility standards. That's why it matters.

I get it. It should be noted that enabling the Increase Contrast accessibility option in iOS/iPadOS does correct the issue to an acceptable level. Whether that should be necessary is up for debate.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by pixelnudger »

s3p wrote: post #102
pixelnudger wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your hex value was sampled from a screenshot taken in dark mode, and actual color values are slightly different between dark and light mode.

This is not true. I just sampled green bubbles from both dark mode and light mode iOS and macOS and got the same hex of 34c759.

Ah you’re right. I stand corrected.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by GekkePrutser »

golergka wrote: post #196
chinchilla2020 wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that this is a middle school level analysis, but I've seen it a couple times in practice during my career. 1. In the dating scene, I have heard women remark that it was a red flag (Android users are stereotypically poor... despite a large number of techies using Android) 2. A manager at my old company was advised to get an iphone for communication with VCs. One of our old leaders had heard commentary from a V…

> Android users are stereotypically poor... despite a large number of techies using Android I haven't lived in a country where text bubbles used to be a thing, but I noticed this. People, even people who are smart and kind in other aspects, still cling to the easiest social cues. Doesn't matter if you wear a Margiela t-shirt or what you drive; your tinder date or a person who you just met in a bar will look at your p…

I don't think people here in Europe think Androids are cheap. And in fact many aren't. I also doubt most people can correctly identify them.

It's kinda funny but I've had even Apple Watch owners thinking that I wear an Apple Watch even though it's an Amazfit GTS 2 mini. It's weird, it hardly looks like one. The one button is much smaller than the Apple's crown and it's smack bang in the middle. It's also a much smaller watch.

Re: One trick Apple uses to make you think green bubbles are “gross”

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Post by type0 »

ahaseeb wrote: post #275
School-Cotton wrote: post #218

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WhatsApp definitely claims end-to-end encryption. There’s a bubble telling you so at the top of every new WhatsApp thread.

If that's the case how do they detect if a message has been forwarded too many times ?

It's all about metadata, PRISM et al

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Post by alvarezbjm-hn »

yieldcrv wrote: post #233
oneplane wrote: post #39

This seems to be mostly a US American thing, mainly because of the same reasons BBM was a thing: lots of chats over SMS used to be a thing, and then chats over iMessage, which like BBM, you can only join if you have a device from a specific vendor. That means that you can only be in a special social circle if you buy the same stuff. That won't change because of some colours, because it's not the colours causing the t…

so its only an American thing because everyone in your continent agrees that SMS sucks too and should shun anyone using it Yes, thats exactly whats going on in the US as well (and yes, we know that Google has recently adopted some other open source messaging standard that now Apple hasn't.)

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Post by sangnoir »

feet wrote: post #288
sangnoir wrote: post #268

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I have ascended to the even more-conceited plane of "I don't bother with social signifiers" (which ironically is a signifier in itself- but in my case, I mostly do not care ). Then again, I'm not currently in the dating pool, so YMMV

I know you aren't the GP, but if you didn't care would you buy an iPhone for social reasons?

"social reasons" is too broad to say conclusively. If i was desperate to get an "in" with a specific circle, then perhaps? I'm pretty utilitarian, so the probability is low: my current peer circle probably uses cars as a social signifier, and unbothered in that area as well.

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Post by alvarezbjm-hn »

marssaxman wrote: post #225
browningstreet wrote: post #122

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> I have heard of people saying they won't date green or blue bubble people But how many times, really? It's like the missing iPhone headphone jack. The press and bloggers hammered away at it for years, making sure it was an ongoing meme in all coverage, but... do people really care? Some people, sure.. but enough for the coverage? Same with bubbles.

I've cared about the missing headphone jack on a couple of occasions, when I wanted to stream some music off my partner's phone, but we had to listen to its tinny little speaker instead. Of course Apple does not need to care what I think, as I am not likely to buy their products anyway.

Bluetooth will never replace wired because wired doesn't require yet another battery.

Convenience and security, too.

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Post by alvarezbjm-hn »

thatguy0900 wrote: post #201
adrr wrote: post #134

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I would love to see a survey of mobile phone users to see if this matters to them. I’ll take a guess it doesn’t matter because Google would be flaunting the results. As for negative effects on kids. There’s more than just phones. Clothes, cars, vacations, social media posts, tutoring, sports. Maybe we should put everyone in uniforms, don’t allow kids drive to school, ban sports, and forbid them from talking about the…

My school had uniforms, bullying doesn't stop. Kids are honestly just mean, and not idiots. You can dress a wealthy kid and a poor kid in the same clothes and you will not fool anyone in class about which one is the poor one.

In my uniformed school, decades ago, money didn't matter as much as size. The big popular guys kept the rich guys around to buy them things.

Edit: power came from physical strenght, attractiveness and sports proficiency. Very much an ancient greek ideal, lol.

Bullying is about power. Bullying can be about money when you don't normalize the population for money. Nowadays you would need uniforms and school provided phones, I suppose. Never in America.

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Post by luuuzeta »

golergka wrote: post #196
chinchilla2020 wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that this is a middle school level analysis, but I've seen it a couple times in practice during my career. 1. In the dating scene, I have heard women remark that it was a red flag (Android users are stereotypically poor... despite a large number of techies using Android) 2. A manager at my old company was advised to get an iphone for communication with VCs. One of our old leaders had heard commentary from a V…

> Android users are stereotypically poor... despite a large number of techies using Android I haven't lived in a country where text bubbles used to be a thing, but I noticed this. People, even people who are smart and kind in other aspects, still cling to the easiest social cues. Doesn't matter if you wear a Margiela t-shirt or what you drive; your tinder date or a person who you just met in a bar will look at your p…

>But after getting frustrated with how people read social cues, I moved back to iPhones and simply got myself the most expensive one, just for the sake of being easier to read for other people.

I hope you're kidding.

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Post by naikrovek »

nineteen999 wrote: post #297
chinchilla2020 wrote: post #118

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I agree that this is a middle school level analysis, but I've seen it a couple times in practice during my career. 1. In the dating scene, I have heard women remark that it was a red flag (Android users are stereotypically poor... despite a large number of techies using Android) 2. A manager at my old company was advised to get an iphone for communication with VCs. One of our old leaders had heard commentary from a V…

> 1. In the dating scene, I have heard women remark that it was a red flag (Android users are stereotypically poor... despite a large number of techies using Android) This is a red flag against the women in question, not the Android user. That attitude/behaviour is a great indicator of a gold digger. You'd be dodging a bullet by avoiding these women. The only other people that share that attitude are teenagers. So if…

this is not indicative of a gold digger. holy hell.

this is indicative of someone with poor judgement AT MOST.

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