Dutch employee fired by U.S. firm for shutting off webcam awarded €75K in court

Post by denton-scratch » Sun, Oct 09, 2022, 5:34 PM UTC

jacknews wrote: post #2

"insubordination" wtf, was this a job or a prison camp?

Post by [deleted] » Sun, Oct 09, 2022, 5:39 PM UTC

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gnfargbl wrote: post #4

> Less than a week after the plaintiff was fired, the Rijswijk branch of Chetu Inc. was deregistered from the Chamber of Commerce and shut down on 2 September, records show. So, it's a fair assumption that no organisation in the Netherlands is going to pay out as a result of this. What are the chances of the employee being able to enforce this judgment in a Florida court?

Cross border collections are a thing between western nations. After all, US courts want to collect damages from EU countries as well. It takes time and usually isn't worth for small amounts... But for 75k someone will take time.

Post by unity1001 » Sun, Oct 09, 2022, 5:42 PM UTC

malshe wrote: post #266

unity1001 wrote: post #256

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> Which is why you make 50% less by the way They make 50% less. And they don't have to pay $1000 per head for private insurance, more for other insurance, $3000/month for being able to be a roommate in a 30 m2 apartment. Also they have disability, reasonable retirement, paid vacations and everything that are pretty much nonexistent for American employees.

If you use some extreme examples then sure living in the US can be very expensive. But for most of us the things are not this bad. I am a professor and even with the academic pay I save about 30% of my salary even after paying all the expenses. The key is to live in a lower cost US state where the salaries are still quite high compared to most of the world.

Post by [deleted] » Sun, Oct 09, 2022, 5:45 PM UTC

biztos wrote: post #161

phpisthebest wrote: post #130

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Depends on the company but they are commonly used to ensure managers are not just firing someone that they are "pissed off" at, people are cynical about them but they are designed to ensure managers have to document the poor performance, and have notified the employee they are under performing... I have seen companies that lack this process and witnessed employees getting very positive feedback from managers even in…

Interesting factoid from Europe: at least in Germany, you are effectively unhirable if you are in a PiP. You actually have to warrant that you are not, before any company of any size will consider hiring you, and of course lying about that would be a firing offense. I get the logic, but as an American I was surprised… I was never PiPed but I too would have assumed it was better than the alternative. Not always!

Post by denton-scratch » Sun, Oct 09, 2022, 5:47 PM UTC

WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #86

s1artibartfast wrote: post #77

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>Less than a week after the plaintiff was fired, the Rijswijk branch of Chetu Inc. was deregistered from the Chamber of Commerce and shut down on 2 September, records show. The branch was first registered in the Netherlands on 1 June 2013 with the capital declared at 10 million euros.

That doesn’t mean they won’t pay him. Only that they don’t plan to hire in the Netherland anymore. It would be pretty stupid to not pay to be honest. It’s not that much money, would mean keeping an open case in the UE and it’s highly likely they would end up paying anyway though one of the collection mechanisms in place for this kind of case.