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Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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Post by aliqot »

smileybarry wrote: post #152
wTj8yqRLkg7Dfsp wrote: post #94

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> Ads that appear ... during the beginning of a content segment are not allowed. > Here are some examples of common violations: Unexpected ads that appear ... during the beginning of a content segment (for example, after a user has clicked on a button, and before the action intended by the button click has taken effect). These ads are unexpected for users, as users expect to ... engage in content instead. ??? isn't t…

Not entirely, I think they mean ads in games between "new game"/"next level" and the game/level starting. Free games are filled with them. Pre-roll ads in video apps like YouTube are different.

It's funny how generations vacillate between "id pay for this" and "id watch ads if this were free" but neither is actually the correct answer as there seems to just be an a/b switch between the two groups and sentiments regardless of which path is chosen.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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Post by nirimda »

93po wrote: post #286
nirimda wrote: post #59

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I've never knowingly encountered a website breaking because I have an adblocker, but I've being running adblockers of one sort or another for about as long as there's been ads on the web - so maybe there's just features I don't know I should experience. Can you give an example of a website that breaks with an adblocker? (Please describe what breaks as well. Otherwise I might not notice it.)

I seen broken sites at least monthly. Uhaul's site broke for me yesterday (the photo upload process to tell them where to place a storage container). Vangaurd's login page doesn't work with adblock (completely doesn't show it) Don't have other examples off top of my head

Thanks. We must have different internet usage patterns. I'm using ublock origin, maybe it's just less disruptive. Or maybe GDPR rules make sites in the EU more forgiving of blocked bits.

For the ones you mentioned, Vanguard seems to have a lot of different login pages, but every one I found actually rendered - although some were white for so slow I wondered if they would fail. But not trying Uhaul because obviously I don't want to make a transaction.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #213
alickz wrote: post #193

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I purposely look away when YouTube starts playing ads. It's silly I know, but I get a tiny amount of satisfaction from not letting them advertise to me.

I don't get the hate on Youtube TBH, when they provide youtube premium.

Personally I'm torn between wanting to pay for a useful service and not wanting to reward YouTube for intentionally degrading their free service.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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Post by detaro »

aliqot wrote: post #301
smileybarry wrote: post #152

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Not entirely, I think they mean ads in games between "new game"/"next level" and the game/level starting. Free games are filled with them. Pre-roll ads in video apps like YouTube are different.

It's funny how generations vacillate between "id pay for this" and "id watch ads if this were free" but neither is actually the correct answer as there seems to just be an a/b switch between the two groups and sentiments regardless of which path is chosen.

In what way do you think this aligns with generations? (I don't really see a generational thing)

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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Post by zymhan »

heywire wrote: post #37
Larrikin wrote: post #18

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The experience is so awful when I browse on my iPad, instead of my Android phone with Firefox+UBlock. I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads. The modern web is so much worse than the pop up ads of the old web.

AdGuard works great on iOS. Plenty of other options too.

Firefox Focus also has an adblocker for Safari that works well IMO

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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Post by rootusrootus »

deelowe wrote: post #295
Terretta wrote: post #207

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> The experience is so awful when I browse on my iPad, instead of my Android phone with Firefox+UBlock. I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads. Most people don’t. Most people who use anything for iOS tend to use things like: - 1Blocker - super full featured, including custom script and css rules. business model is paid software, not ‘acceptable ads’ paying them for placement or…

Most people do this? I seriously doubt it.

Within the context of people who know what uBlock origin is, given that was the original comparison, 'most' sounds accurate.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

cft wrote: post #187
matkoniecz wrote: post #140

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> As a result, less and less of the independent web is getting traffic Tracking cookies are not mandatory. You are not obligated to present cookie banner: you can simply drop nonessential cookies.

Getting money for running websites is also non-mandatory? Are we going to fund them from the government 5-year plans yet? Our hosting expenses alone are 8k per month.

> Getting money for running websites is also non-mandatory?

Correct. I've only run a handful of websites in my life, but not one of them has ever served ads.

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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Post by adolph »

Larrikin wrote: post #18
bloopernova wrote: post #5

Firefox for Android with ublock origin makes my mobile web browsing sane again. Highly recommended.

The experience is so awful when I browse on my iPad, instead of my Android phone with Firefox+UBlock. I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads. The modern web is so much worse than the pop up ads of the old web.

The close button is very easy to use and doesn't require additional software (each solution having upgrades/costs/breakage of its own in addition to the browser).

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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Post by blacksmith_tb »

tuzemec wrote: post #90
buro9 wrote: post #12

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Likewise for NextDNS as Androids Private DNS. This combination of Firefox+uBlock and NextDNS+Private DNS makes Android a pleasurable experience.

My only problem with NextDNS is the youtube ads, but that's kinda unavoidable. Otherwise works flawlessly.

Brave filters out those for me pretty well - in fact that's most of what I use it for, FF + UBlock is my default browser on Android, but doesn't do quite as well with Youtube (and then I am using Nextdns via Private DNS for system-wide blocking).

Re: Google cracks down on VPN based adblockers

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Post by mikeryan »

Larrikin wrote: post #18
bloopernova wrote: post #5

Firefox for Android with ublock origin makes my mobile web browsing sane again. Highly recommended.

The experience is so awful when I browse on my iPad, instead of my Android phone with Firefox+UBlock. I really don't understand how most people can stand to browse with all the ads. The modern web is so much worse than the pop up ads of the old web.

One of my happier hacks was setting up home assistant for home automation with adguard and WireGuard VPN.

Whole house ad blocking and my iPhone is pretty much consistently attached to my home VPN to take advantage of the ad blocking.

There’s some small pain points with using public wifi with login screens, enough so that I haven’t had my wife use it yet but I dig it.

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