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Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by Tiktaalik »

trixie_ wrote: post #7

It's a strange move given Facebook changed their name to promote VR and the Quest is their flagship device. Also surprised that after mass producing this device for almost 2 years their manufacturing and supply chain costs aren't dialed in enough to maintain the current price. The message here is that VR is 'failing'. I hope it's not, but that's the message with this backwards move.

All consoles (ok maybe not old Nintendo handhelds) are sold at a loss in order to create the platform and the console maker makes the revenue on licensing fees on software and accessories.

FB shouldn't have to raise the price if they're making money selling games for the Quest. I guess they're not selling games.

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by Tiktaalik »

vlunkr wrote: post #12

That's a significant increase. Can any game historians here tell us if a price hike this large has ever happened before? It's not a good look for something that seemed to be gaining a lot of traction.

Previous console makers haven't done this. If they ever did increase prices for a console it would be wrapped up in some incremental improvement of the hardware.

I don't recall ever seeing a price increase on the same hardware.

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by charcircuit »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #203
dmix wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're missing out, Quest 2 was one of the best purchases I've made in the last year. I also don't think VR is good enough to be worth investing $1k+ into a VR headset like Vive. $300 seemed like a very high return on investment for what I got. Not sure about $400 since I already have one but I'd probably still do it. I also made a fake, empty Facebook account to use the Oculus store, so I don't feel like it's a priv…

For me it isn't even so much about the privacy invasion or having to have a Facebook account, it's being locked into one store. PCVR doesn't have that problem.

You can sideload the sidequest store.

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Post by charcircuit »

Macha wrote: post #131
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

VR wouldn’t even be a thing anymore without their efforts. PC Tower VR is a dead end where the complexity and hardware costs will never take it the customer base size that justifies developing non-indie content. I don’t think Valve would have even bothered building Index without the Oculus threat.

I mean, so far the three titles I would call "non-Indie", those being Fallout VR, Skyrim VR and HL: Alyx, are PC VR exclusives. Stuff like Beat Saber and VRChat which are the most succesful VR games, predate the Quest, and are probaby helped that beat saber only needs the motion controls part of VR - were it not for facebook using it to sell the Quest nowadays, we would have had a switch port by now I feel. And VRcha…

>we would have had a switch port by now I feel.

Only one switch controller can do 6DoF tracking and I don't think it would be that accurate either.

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Post by anonymousab »

dmix wrote: post #183
yonaguska wrote: post #3

As much as I wanted to get into VR, Meta taking over the Quest has thankfully saved me countless sunken dollars and hours.

You're missing out, Quest 2 was one of the best purchases I've made in the last year. I also don't think VR is good enough to be worth investing $1k+ into a VR headset like Vive. $300 seemed like a very high return on investment for what I got. Not sure about $400 since I already have one but I'd probably still do it. I also made a fake, empty Facebook account to use the Oculus store, so I don't feel like it's a priv…

> I also made a fake, empty Facebook account to use the Oculus store

If this isn't your main account, then this is a violation of the ToS and Meta/FB can (and in many cases, have) ban you and remove access to everything you bought at the drop of a hat.

If it is your main account, then you should assume that they are linking all of your VR data in the backend with whatever shadow profiles they have generated for you from other sources.

Re: Meta is raising the price of the Quest 2 to 400 USD

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Post by jjcon »

epicide wrote: post #161
jjcon wrote: post #144

Worth noting that this really only equates to a $50 increase on the base model compared to release since it was originally released as a 64GB set and now only 128GB is sold.

The 128GB model was selling for $300 before this hike. Source: looking at a Best Buy listing right now for it (no sales or anything like that mentioned).

Understood - just worth noting the comparison to the original release msrp I think. It’s not quite as bed if that is kept in mind

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Post by Karrot_Kream »

adastra22 wrote: post #151
Firmwarrior wrote: post #120

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The VR enthusiast/dev community has gotten caught in a death spiral when it comes to simulation sickness.. They encourage each other to "get your VR legs" and play/demand/make nausea-inducing games, and it just chases away all the normal human beings who don't want to spend months gently training their bodies to become immune to it (FYI, the way it works is you play until you start to feel a hint of nausea, and stop…

When it comes to nausea, it’s once and done for me. Wtf would I ever put myself through that again, for a game? I’d rather go outside, thanks.

(Don't mean to pile-on so sorry if it comes off that way, text is hard.) I use VR in very different way. I either use it to socialize when I'm too pooped to leave the house or to do things I just couldn't do outside. Nothing can replace an epic bikepacking trip or a scenic hike for me. Outside and VR are both different ways for me to enjoy my time.

FWIW once I stopped riding around in cars much I started getting a ton of nausea riding in a passenger seat of the car, but I put up with it because society has a lot of car travel. VR also took a bit, but I like what I get out of it.

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Post by Mo3 »

PaulsWallet wrote: post #248
parkingrift wrote: post #201

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>I also made a fake, empty Facebook account to use the Oculus store, so I don't feel like it's a privacy invasion. You're kidding yourself with that. You gave Facebook literal eyes into your home through an internet connected device. If you don't think Facebook know who you are I have some coins I'd like to sell you.

I talked to someone who used to be at Facebook's reality lab and they said they have very VERY strict controls on user data and no one just has remote access through Oculus cameras including devs but reputation is hard to shake when tied to a company like Facebook.

Lol, yeah, sure. Just like Alexa and Nest have "very strict controls on user data and most definitely not remote access to recordings"

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Post by GekkePrutser »

Auracle wrote: post #266
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #250

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You're correct, it used to require hackery, not it appears it is an included beta feature.

It was always supported natively over USB.

In the quest 2 yes, it was introduced while the quest 1 was already out.

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Post by Karrot_Kream »

rblatz wrote: post #253
dougmwne wrote: post #210

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I think not really. Quest 2 is not feature complete because it lacks core social features like color passthrough cameras, eye tracking and facial expression tracking. I’m guessing Meta thinks those features are so critical to their Metaverse experience that they are willing to forgo sales in the short term.

I just read a thread from 2021 on reddit yesterday where an Oculus employee said that they wouldn't be adding color passthrough cameras, and that the current cameras worked on ir and likely would for a while. I'll see if I can dig it up, but it seems like color passthrough isn't going to be on the menu for the 3.

I'd love the link if you can.
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