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Post by jonathantf2 » Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 4:10 PM UTC

fartcannon wrote: post #208

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700,000,000 users disagree with your statements. You can’t make something true by just saying it’s true. Also your attitude is super toxic. You’re calling people who don’t value the same things you do, “clueless”. You don’t really get to bullshit people on HN — you can be super smart and skilled in your field, you’ll far too often come across people with vastly more experience than you. I invite you to think about th…

Its not years behind. That's a lie. In fact Id say it's ahead because you don't need to use a phone number (huge liability), you can choose to use e2e if you want and theyre not storing your data in plaintext! Oh and all of matrix is totally open source! Wow. That's how you know you can trust it. If they decide to pull a WhatsApp and move to Facebook, you can just fork and get on with your life. I like that the teleg…

Post by fritigern » Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 4:11 PM UTC

hiq wrote: post #231

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Neither is WhatsApp. It's a closed source app, no one outside of Meta knows if it is actually encrypted properly.

That's not how it works: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11432661

Post by hiq » Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 4:42 PM UTC

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That's not how it works: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11432661

Nonsense. The app is closed source. Facebook could be copying all your private keys to their servers and you would never know.

Post by tootie » Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 5:21 PM UTC

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For me, the value of messaging comes 99.99% from availability of people I'm messaging. For work, it's all Slack. For personal it's SMS. I haven't seen a compelling feature in a chat app since 1997.

It's true that if nobody you want to talk to is on it or willing to install it, then it's not of much use. It's also a bit harder to find really compelling features for direct messages. Though even for DMs, outside of Apple's walled iMessage garden, it's hard to get stuff like high quality photos, videos, and audio messages, reactions, stickers, etc that work correctly for everyone on all device types. Group handling…

Post by ako » Mon, Jun 20, 2022, 7:15 PM UTC

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Telegram's Linux client is simply Amazing.

It's one of the worst Linux desktop programs I use daily. It gets scaling a bit wrong so all the icons look blurry, scrolling in chats regularly breaks (scroll wheel just does nothing but is fine in all other programs), and the one time I tried to video call in it it crashed. Discord's client is much better.